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National MPs breaching people’s privacy? Surely not!

A good decade or so ago I think it was, around January this year, I posted this about the criminal fraud involving donations to the National Party:

As with the data theft incident last year, the ethical bar that Bridges feels candidates need to clear is “No criminal charges were laid.”  This latest incident elaborates on that, adding the feature “You can’t prove I was involved in those criminal acts.”

And blimey, here we are again only a decade – sorry, I mean six months – later, with yet another National MP falling back on “My lawyer says it wasn’t a criminal act.” Well, no disrespect to your lawyer, Hamish Walker, but let’s see what the Privacy Commissioner makes of your total disregard for the Privacy Act 1993 before we make the bold claim that you and Michelle Boag aren’t crims.

And just in case we were going to be left in any doubt about just how narcissistic these born-to-rule Tories are, Stuff helps us remove that doubt:

Stuff understands Walker’s lawyer argued that revealing the MP’s involvement would breach his privacy.

You seriously could not make this shit up, no-one would believe you.  I’m picking that “shambles” suddenly stops being the most common word in Todd Muller’s vocabulary.

Written by Psycho Milt

July 8, 2020 at 7:06 am

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  1. Hamish Walker has shown very bad judgement, and has to deal with the consequences of that. Thats how it should be.Also, it's a defence lawyers job to defend their client, therefore the criticism against the lawyer is invalid. PS, this message is not brought to you by a National party member.Oddball

    Anonymous

    July 8, 2020 at 7:53 am

  2. MPs are exempt from the privacy act when acting as MPs so Hamish is probably off the hook but Michelle Boag must be nervous.https://www.privacy.org.nz/the-privacy-act-and-codes/privacy-act-and-codes-introduction/

    fredonas

    July 8, 2020 at 8:16 am

  3. A young guy with a bad case of judgement from lack of experience. Dealt with promptly.Yesterdays news now.Oh but you were talking shambles, quite rightly so, that's a typical day in the life of the current Labour led Government. Absolutely no need to recite the evidence as all our readers would fall asleep with boredom , the list is so long.You'd be forced to agree with me Milt but you don't have the bi-partisan view of the world to step that far out of line…..

    RosscoWlg

    July 8, 2020 at 10:12 am

  4. Not that I want to let the uselessness of Labour MP's off the hook, but what is going on in National that allows the likes of Jamie-Lee Ross, Gilmore, and now this plonker to get through the system?I mean I laugh regularly at Twyford, Curren, Clark and the rest of the useless Labour shower, but you can't help wondering if this is a bipartisan epidemic of useless, entitled twats who've never done much in their lives and feel that politics is the way to go?Oh – and let's note that the Kiwiblog threads on this were filled with angry Nat supporters demanding his head. Quite the contrast to The Standard's relentless defence of Curren, Clark and Twyford.Oh – and well done Todd. Maybe you're not such a plonker after all? Jacinda should take note of how fast the executions can be done.

    Tom Hunter

    July 8, 2020 at 11:13 am

  5. Yesterdays news now.The insouciance with which you dismiss a criminal privacy breach by the National Party says a lot about why these fuckwits feel like they can get away with it. Boag has a lengthy history of this kind of weaselry and Walker's predecessor in his electorate resigned for exactly the same kind of criminal dumb-fuckery that Walker's resigned for. This is not an isolated incident, it's a pattern of shit ethical standards.

    Psycho Milt

    July 8, 2020 at 6:03 pm

  6. Oh – and let's note that the Kiwiblog threads on this were filled with angry Nat supporters demanding his head. Quite the contrast to The Standard's relentless defence of Curren, Clark and Twyford.False analogy. If a Labour MP and party official get caught engaging in criminal activity for political gain, then we can have a look at what people say about them on The Standard. Until then, there's nothing to compare.

    Psycho Milt

    July 8, 2020 at 6:06 pm

  7. Until then, there's nothing to compare.Fine. I'll go see how the Standardnistas dealt with the issue of Meka Whaitiri.

    Tom Hunter

    July 8, 2020 at 6:35 pm

  8. LOOK SQUIRREL! Screeches Tom.

    Snowflake

    July 8, 2020 at 6:54 pm

  9. There is nothing intelligent to say about this fiasco other than it reveals how utterly useless the National Party is and that they are certainly unfit to command the treasury benches – which is a crying shame given the Godless bunch of baby killing nasties who currently do occupy them and presumably will do so for some time to come

    Andrei

    July 8, 2020 at 7:02 pm

  10. Have to agree with Tom's initial post. And it's not vjust being a plonker, but the PR damage of doing something that contradicts your intended political brand, in National's case law and order and competence, Hence Metiria Turei and the benefit fraud thing was not that much of a killer compared to say, if she had owned shares in a logging company that felled Indonesian teak forest to turn them into pulp for glossy porno magazines. In contrast, the former MP for Clutha-Southland Todd Barclay, refusing to cooperate with the Police re the investigation into his electoral office, and now this with Walker are damaging. However, kudos to Muller for not letting it hang around and taking his first decisive action as leader, although he had to get his ducks in a row and ensure some idiots in the local National electoral committee had to buy-in to the fact Walker had to go.But as per Tom, from where do these low-quality idiots come?

    Kimbo

    July 8, 2020 at 7:55 pm

  11. I think it's inherent in National's approach to candidate selection. For all that we sneer about Labour head office's control-freakery over candidate selection and the lack of democracy involved, leaving it up to the local branch also has its drawbacks, ie you get candidates whose notable features are ambition and local patronage.

    Psycho Milt

    July 8, 2020 at 8:48 pm

  12. Milt … fair post and damaging to the National Party if only in the sense that it diverts attention from the economic shambles facing the country under Ardern's borrow and hope non strategy.The winnerMuller … happened on Thursday; Walker gone as a candidate by Tuesday, Decisive leadership.The losers …The National Party, in the short term at least.Walker, obivious.Boag, for a long time Boag has been to the administrative arm of the party what McCully was to the parliamentary wing. A force behind the scenes and not necessarily a force for good. Now she is toxic and her ability to influence the Party going forward is zip zero. I contrast her with perhaps the most successful Party President of recent times … Judy Kirk. When she retired from the Presidency she kept her head down and only offered advice when asked. That's a model for ex Presidents.Ardern … her lack of decisiveness in dealing with miscreant MPs is exposed for all to see. She hung on to fuckwit Clark until her internal polling said he was a electoral liability. Likewise, Jones has been allowed to run roughshod over the cabinet manual and all she did was to hit him with a wet bus ticket. Any leader worth her salt would have said DCM and NZF would have remained clinging to the baubles of office.

    The Veteran

    July 8, 2020 at 9:21 pm

  13. Stuff claiming he didn't want his name associated with the leak for privacy reasons after he had destroyed the privacy of others was a a cracker.

    Noel

    July 8, 2020 at 10:21 pm

  14. Milt, are you happy with Chunter turning on moderation for your posts while he's out milking?

    Gustavo Frink

    July 8, 2020 at 10:51 pm

  15. Boag – Good riddance to bad rubbish.Walker – Plonker.Muller – demonstrating measured decisiveness.The inconvenient question remains.How did this information wind up, not with the helicopter service (though that would be a question in and of itself), but in Boag's PRIVATE email address?Anybody with any relationship with the MOH/DHB's wants to know.

    alloytoo

    July 8, 2020 at 11:23 pm

  16. Couple of years ago I received other peoples files instead of mine.Immediately notified the sender and deleted the files from my computer.Seems if its for political mudslinging the ethics are different?

    Noel

    July 8, 2020 at 11:58 pm

  17. I guess Walker is now on gardening leave.Oh well saved the cost of a by election.

    Gerald

    July 9, 2020 at 12:29 am

  18. Milt … before we get too prissy over candidate selection we would do well to remember that political parties are people and people are humans and some humans are dick-wits and they come in all shapes and sizes and political colours. For starters …Labour … Hon Taito Phillip Field, sentenced to six years for corruption; Clare Curran sacked after misleading Parliament; Meka Whaitari sacked after assaulting a member of her staff; passion fingers Phil Twyford and dick-wit in chief Revd David Clark.Greens … the Material Girl for ripping off the system without shame; Golly Gosh living in a parallel universe.NZF … too many to name but how about Prosser the tosser along with the Jones boy whose understanding of ethics can be written on the back of a (very small) postage stamp.ACT … Donna Huata convicted of fraud and removed from Parliament; David Garrett resigned following revelations about his fraudulently obtaining a passport.National … Hon Richard Worth sacked for acting like a 'dick'; Aaron Gilmore who gave the word dick-wit a whole new meaning and now Hamish Walker/Michelle Boag.Being elected to parliament is a privilege. Those who abuse that privilege deserve all they get.

    The Veteran

    July 9, 2020 at 1:19 am

  19. @ The VetExplaining is losing, especially when it is whataboutism. Bottom line is that all the examples you give are effectively ancient history to most voters. And for National, having to play catch-up with not much time left on the clock so everything they do has to be accurate to keep up the pressure, this was a dropped pass. And a bad one.

    Kimbo

    July 9, 2020 at 1:46 am

  20. Kimbo … agreed … but Clark ain't ancient history is he … only last week. On that basis this is a nothing but it is. Muller at least handled it well.

    The Veteran

    July 9, 2020 at 3:14 am

  21. Ardern … her lack of decisiveness in dealing with miscreant MPs is exposed for all to see.And there's that insouciance again. To Nat supporters, MPs having to quit when their criminal act is exposed, or having to fall back on \”No criminal charges were laid,\” is on a par with MPs who don't do a very good job. This is why your party is constantly having to fend off questions about lax ethics or dirty politics.

    Psycho Milt

    July 9, 2020 at 4:20 am

  22. …political parties are people and people are humans and some humans are dick-wits and they come in all shapes and sizes and political colours.Sure. But National needs to take a long, hard look at its Clutha-Southland organisation. The incumbent's resigned for illegally releasing private information, his predecessor resigned for illegally recording his staff and that one's predecessor ripped off the taxpayer with a false claim about his housing arrangements. The people doing the selection and how they operate could do with some investigation.

    Psycho Milt

    July 9, 2020 at 4:25 am

  23. Milt … you're treading on quicksand. You're arguing that Field was ethical; that Curran was ethical; that Turei was ethical … and those just for starters. Give me a break. Yes, Walker was a dick-wit led astray by someone National is better without and he and the Party will pay a price. But don't get prissy, holier than thou because it doesn't wash.

    The Veteran

    July 9, 2020 at 4:39 am

  24. What quicksand? Look at your examples: Curran was dismissed for the kind of ethics that were routine in the Key government; Turei stepped down over something she did as a yoof long before she even considered running for Parliament; Field was guilty of something as bad as the Nat MPs in question but that was 15 years ago.What I'm talking about is a pattern of behaviour by Nat MPs such that \”No criminal charges were laid\” is the best they can come up with as an excuse. Just in the last five years we've had Todd Barclay's illegal recording, two instances of criminal fraud involving donations, an intentional data breach of Treasury and now illegal distribution of personal information taken from the health system. There is no comparison.

    Psycho Milt

    July 9, 2020 at 6:55 am


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