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“The police have investigated and decided xxxxx was not a criminal act”

The National Party should use the slogan “No criminal charges were laid” on its billboards for this election.  I’ve literally lost count of how many times that phrase or a variant of it has appeared in news items about National MPs over the last three years, they might as well make it their motto.

This latest incident is as impressive as the Treasury data breach one, in that it sheds some light on the ethics of the party’s leader.  Stuff reports:

Stuff understands the [Labour] party was alerted to an alcohol-related incident involving [National MP Andrew] Falloon, which was “unbecoming of an MP”. The incident involved him sending at least one indecent picture, not of himself, to a school girl. The parents of the girl notified the prime minister’s office.

The Prime Minister had her staff check with the parents that they were OK for the complaint to be redirected to National leader Judith Collins’ office and required them to otherwise keep it to themselves. Collins then “dealt with it:”

In a statement, National Party leader Judith Collins said she had spoken to Falloon who had advised her he would not be standing for re-election.

“The National Party was advised of an issue relating to Andrew late on Friday afternoon, and we have dealt with it this morning.

“Andrew is suffering from significant mental health issues and his privacy, and that of his family, must be respected.”

Very clever, if also completely ethics-free, as to be expected from one of the lead characters in Dirty Politics.  Frame the resignation as a mental health issue and Falloon’s suddenly an object of sympathy and concern. Lefty commentators on Twitter spent the afternoon demanding that people not push Falloon to answer questions about what happened, out of concern for his mental health.  Expertly played for suckers.

At this rate, Maureen Pugh’s going to end up on the front bench.

 

Written by Psycho Milt

July 20, 2020 at 7:26 pm

Posted in New Zealand

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  1. You have got to say it – J, Ardern’s handling of this has been masterpiece, standing well above the fray while National wallows in the gutter with an MP whose behaviour is beyond appaliing.

    After the Jamie Lee Ross fiasco you have to ask just what sort of people are ending up as National MPs and the mental health excuse just doesn’t cut it

    Andrei

    July 20, 2020 at 7:49 pm

  2. Six weeks ago National had my vote in the bag but as National self destructs I doubt that ever before been a bigger meltdown of a political party in the lead up to a general election

    Andrei

    July 20, 2020 at 7:53 pm

  3. Part of me thinks you are too harsh…and then I remember the months of carry on by the right wing tribalists on places like Kiwiblog a couple of years ago over the Labour Youth Camp “sex offender”, and I figure, what goes around comes around. And why any “whataboutism” reflects badly on any who try.

    And yeah, as we agreed last week, for a party with the supposed brand of “competence”, National has a real problem with some of its candidate selection because there have been too many duds lately – particularly out of their the South Island (Gilmour, Barclay, Walker and now Falloon) for this to be coincidence.

    Kimbo

    July 20, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    • Take your point Kimbo . It must be something to do with the South Island, or perhaps the water, its too pure and natural for human consumption.

      I mean take your list and add Cullen from Dunedin, and whos that revolting women who just got dumped from the Regional Council down that way,, then there is Dalzell in Chc…cant remember her misdemeanour (s), and what about that complete moron who promised us a 100,000 houses, and that other woman who was co-penis of the Greens, and ……

      You know with all those problems, combined with all the lies you’d wonder why Adern hasnt taken that pill?

      But perhaps she will, nice way to leave with dignity…

      rossco01

      July 20, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    • Piss off, Rossco, and try for once not be a a prat. Difficult in your case, I know…

      Kimbo

      July 20, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    • It beats the hell out of me. These rural South Island seats are never going to elect anyone other than the National candidate, so whoever gets to be the candidate has a sinecure for life if they want one. You’d think a reward like that would be closely guarded by the party to ensure only the best people get to be candidates in those seats, but it’s just a parade of wide boys and self-centred buffoons. They really need to do some work on it.

      Psycho Milt

      July 21, 2020 at 6:10 am

  4. Once again, Jacinda Ardern shows class and maturity. Labour could have arranged for this to be leaked to the media, but chose you protect rather than ambush.

    Methinks that Natioanl may need to raise the bar for candidate selection, but seems Labour has beaten them to the best of the bunch.

    Gustavo Frink

    July 20, 2020 at 7:59 pm

  5. Frinkie, you’re right there is a lot of “class and maturity” in Adern.

    I wonder why she took that approach?

    Seems strange and out of character way to handle this issue, dont you think?

    rossco01

    July 20, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    • “N’interrompez jamais un ennemi qui est en train de faire une erreur.” – Napoleon Bonaparte

      37 year old married men don’t send dirty pictures to teenaged girls – that is unbelievably sleazy. J. Ardern can play it totally straight, keep her mouth shut and hand J. Collins a putrid dead rat and the associated stench while coming out smelling of roses

      And as for the feeble excuses…

      … don’t National party people know when you are in a hole to stop digging?

      Andrei

      July 20, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    • Seems strange and out of character way to handle this issue, dont you think?

      The way she handled it is totally in character, because she’s not playing a character. Her response to every one of these “No criminal charges were laid” incidents over the last few years has been the same: act with integrity and don’t try to exploit the issue because it would reflect badly on you.

      Also, what Andrei said.

      Psycho Milt

      July 21, 2020 at 6:14 am

  6. Andrei you really need to change your vodka brand, you are writing a lot of crap.

    Nobody with an analytical brain and common sense would write stuff about big meltdowns..there is no evidence to support that claim at all.

    I mean every organisation has staff issues, its how you deal with them, straight away, or piss around for months like someone we know,

    And we all know the cause of that…when you have no talent in your party you cant move people around.

    And no body but no body would claim National lacks talent…that’s what frightens Milt and his erstwhile colleagues in the Labour Party.

    You see, you never, ever see a post from Milt arguing policy, like a 100,000 homes or the massive homelessness that bedeviled the country 3 years ago but suddenly cleared up in a flash after they built 6 houses… you see these little snipey bits like the above.

    After all they cant win the talent pool competition and they sure cant win the honesty and integrity competition either.

    rossco01

    July 20, 2020 at 10:45 pm

    • And no body but no body would claim National lacks talent…

      Well, I would. National talks up appalling people like Paula Bennett, Gerry Brownlee or Jami Lee Ross as ‘talent’ or a ‘strong team,’ but it’s just talk. In government, they tend to show themselves up as appalling people.

      …you never, ever see a post from Milt arguing policy, like a 100,000 homes or the massive homelessness that bedeviled the country 3 years ago but suddenly cleared up in a flash after they built 6 houses…

      I do write posts about policy, but they require an adult reading level so it’s not that surprising you haven’t read them. Thanks for the suggestion about housing policy, though – I see I’ve only commented about that and not written a post. I’ll write one soon.

      Psycho Milt

      July 21, 2020 at 6:27 am

    • What talent Rossco, the only talent I can discern is the talent for making jackasses of themselves.

      How many current National MPs have bailed in the past few weeks? At least five by my reckoning – rats leaving a sinking ship

      Andrei

      July 21, 2020 at 7:46 am

  7. Psycho: how do you rate Bennett and Gerry Brownlee as on a par with Ross. The former both competent pols by any rational process, Ross a truly awful person. Your tribal bias showing, something I thought you’d avoided recently (and good on you for lifting the game).

    Max Ritchie

    July 21, 2020 at 7:19 am

    • I put in a good word for Psycho making a case against Bennett recently rather than leaving it just to him to trumpet his own merits. He did a pretty good job of recently critiquing Bennett’s shortcomings in the P house clean up affair.

      kimbo

      July 21, 2020 at 7:39 am

    • Ross was a senior National MP and highly valued by the party’s leader right up until he was suspected of leaking the leader’s tax returns. National’s ‘road to Damascus’ conversion to seeing Ross as a “truly awful person” coincided exactly with him turning his ‘talent’ against the party.

      Bennett’s ‘no criminal charges were laid’ incident was illegally breaching the privacy of two of her ministry’s clients by distributing information about them to the media. If that wasn’t appalling enough, as Kimbo’s pointed out above she was involved in exacerbating the country’s homeless problem via mass evictions of families from state houses, so that she could portray herself as ‘tough on drugs.’ Parliament is a better place for her leaving it.

      Brownlee’s ‘no criminal charges were laid’ moments (plural) were when he assaulted a member of the public and when he breached airport security. As minister, he botched the Chch earthquake recovery despite being given unlimited authority. He thinks diversity comes at the cost of competence, ie that people of other ethnic groups are less competent. Then there’s his thoughts on gays: “They are now saying they want to be treated the same as other people. The sad fact is – although some will find this difficult to take – they are not the same.” He is appalling and by no means ‘talent.’

      Psycho Milt

      July 21, 2020 at 8:45 am

  8. Questions:
    1/ how did Falloon get the girls number?
    2/ Is the girl over 16?
    3/ Why did the parents not take this directly to the Police?
    4/ Why did they take this to the PM and not the LotO*?

    Admittedly, it can be difficult to know who the Leader of the Opposition is lately.

    guytheimperfect

    July 21, 2020 at 7:41 am

    • Very good questions Guy.!

      I suspect Psycho would be the best positioned of any us to answer your questions Guy.

      In light of a very similar ensnarement run against Chris Bishop by the Labour Party dirty tricks department you would have to wonder.

      Interesting on Morning Report this morning Adern didnt want to talk about it. Shut down very quickly.

      I wonder why… perhaps Psycho knows the answer to that one too?

      rossco01

      July 21, 2020 at 8:46 am

    • For the avoidance of doubt, I don’t think this is a nefarious scheme of dear leader, she was right to pass it on without comment.

      guytheimperfect

      July 21, 2020 at 9:01 am

    • Very good questions Guy.!

      More like “irrelevant questions,” except maybe for Nat oppo research people interested in mounting a smear campaign against a schoolgirl. Edit: apparently a teenager but not a schoolgirl. Doesn’t surprise me that you’d be enthusiastic about that, Rossco.

      Interesting on Morning Report this morning Adern didnt want to talk about it. Shut down very quickly.

      I wonder why… perhaps Psycho knows the answer to that one too?

      I do. It’s called ‘integrity,’ Rossco. I get why it would be such a mystery for you.

      Psycho Milt

      July 21, 2020 at 9:22 am

    • Pyscho,
      It seems to me that determining if it was indeed a criminal act is relevant.

      guytheimperfect

      July 21, 2020 at 9:47 am

    • Great, guytheimperfect wants to victim-blame to establish if an illegal act took place…despite police who investigating determining it didn’t. Let it be, the facts stand

      Kimbo

      July 21, 2020 at 10:59 am

    • Sorry Kimbo,
      I had not seen the police investigation, humble apologies.
      I took from PM’s tone that he thought what Falloon did was criminal (or should be), and was seeking further facts before drawing conclusions.
      Are you the same Kimbo who codified <ahref=”https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/06/general_debate_12_june_2017.html#comment-1948469″>Kimbo’s law?

      guytheimperfect

      July 21, 2020 at 11:10 am

    • All good, guy

      Kimbo

      July 21, 2020 at 12:09 pm

  9. Some answers here… perhaps? Roscco

    NOEL

    July 21, 2020 at 9:14 am

  10. I suffer depression, and have for over 30 years.

    I have worked with and helped many men through some of the most tring times in their lives.

    Never once have I though that answer to my own, or anyone else’s problem, was to send an unsolicited dick pic.

    Gustavo Frink

    July 21, 2020 at 10:20 am

  11. Talk about biased commentators.
    Any-one want to remember how Cindy treats any delinquent labour member?
    In national do wrong you’re gone.

    George Black

    July 21, 2020 at 10:55 am

    • Assuming that by ‘Cindy’ you mean the Right Honourable Jacinda Ardern, Prime Minister of New Zealand, no I don’t remember how she deals with MPs who are caught leaking citizens’ personal info to the media or sending unsolicited porn to teenage girls, for the simple reason that none of her MPs have been caught doing that.

      Psycho Milt

      July 21, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    • Looks like that question has been answered for you in a rather emphatic manner.

      Vinegar Joe

      July 22, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    • I guess we do know how she deals with that shit now, yes. I notice that, unlike Collins, she didn’t start off by deciding he could step down at the election and then change her mind when everyone greeted that decision with “What the fuck?”

      Psycho Milt

      July 22, 2020 at 6:55 pm

  12. His resignation follows calls from National Party Leader Judith Collins on Tuesday morning, who said she wanted to see him go.

    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern told RNZ that if Falloon was her MP, that would be her expectation too

    Now that is richly and deeply funny.

    Tom Hunter

    July 21, 2020 at 11:13 am

    • Expectations are like aspirations.
      It has been my experience that people on begin to discuss expectations after they have not been met.

      guytheimperfect

      July 21, 2020 at 11:22 am

  13. Ardern’s customary response is to say that the matter is before the courts and subject to name suppression…..

    alloytoo

    July 21, 2020 at 11:40 am

    • Given that this matter isn’t before the courts or subject to name suppression, that’s an irrelevant contribution to the thread.

      Psycho Milt

      July 21, 2020 at 2:33 pm

    • Tova O’brien is a singulrly nasty piece of work and her Monday morning quarter backing is just meaningless babble

      Andrei

      July 21, 2020 at 4:25 pm

  14. That Maureen Pugh Comment Milt is not only irrelevant but a very poor assessment.
    She was Mayor of Westland District Council before heading for national politics and has given serious service to a bit of this nation that has very challenging demographics.
    Very elongated, a tiny rating base and although much of its roading comes from the State Highway system as does Kaikoura on the other coast, there are some challenging issues from Tourism and weather.
    I have never met Ms Pugh but was at a couple of conferences where in her local body role was keynote speaker. I do however know her successor Bruce Smith and have some close understanding of just how hard that job is.
    Way beyond wrapping fish and chips and person for person Maureen Pugh in spite of the throw away comment from Mr Bridges who also would have had minimal understanding of how tough being the Westland mayor might be in truth, would be a far more capable manager than most of the numpties attempting to be pretend Ministers of Her Majesty’s government of this great Nation.

    Gravedodger

    July 21, 2020 at 5:06 pm

    • I suppose I am being unfair to Maureen Pugh. It’s not like she’s having to plead ‘no criminal charges were laid’ for dodgy activities she’s been up to, or anything. I know nothing of her beyond Simon Bridges’ assessment that was leaked to the media.

      Psycho Milt

      July 21, 2020 at 5:47 pm


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