No Minister

Can Collins take votes off Ardern instead of Act?

Just thought this needs repeating (from July this year).

No Minister

So the inevitable has happened – Judith Collins is finally leader of the National Party.

I think this is very good for the country.

The worst government in living memory is sleep-walking to victory. It cannot be allowed to continue down the path is is travelling down, without an effective opposition leader holding them to account, and firmly.

Judith will probably do that in part.

But elections are won in the middle. And Judith and National both have a lot of work to do to convince middle New Zealand to vote for her as their prime minister.

Gareth Morgan (in)famously said you can put liptick on a pig, but it’s still a pig. Since MMP, National has been very wet and soft. Its policies are similar to Labour’s, except they’re just managed better. As an example, Bill English was thumping his chest when announcing his budget was more to the…

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Written by Nick K

October 18, 2020 at 11:53 am

Posted in New Zealand

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  1. Don’t resile one bit from what I said then. With MMP you work with the cards dealt to you remembering always that governing is the art of the possible rather than the impossible. ACT is fortunate … it can argue from a position of ideological purity knowing they won’t have to deliver. National can’t do that.

    As I said earlier … this time round the stars aligned for ACT. They seized the moment made easier by the ructions within National. I’ll be blogging on this in some detail later on this week after I return from doing God’s work in Taupo.

    The Veteran

    October 18, 2020 at 1:56 pm

    • Yes and the cards National “were dealt were MPs who were busy fornicating with each other, sending porn pictures to schoolgirls in between stabbing the leadership of the party in the back and gossiping with hostile press gallery reporters

      The drubbing National got this election was well deserved and is down to the woeful behaviour of National MPs

      Andrei

      October 19, 2020 at 5:42 am

  2. Andrei … that’s your first comment in months that I can relate to.

    The Veteran

    October 19, 2020 at 6:47 am

    • Vet – interesting that National get hammered for these issues as Andrei says yet Labour with not one but two sexual abuse issues get rewarded.

      Then there is this from Christie over at the BFD:

      `Any voter who could still vote for David Clark after his diabolical tenure as Health Minister seriously needs help. This is what happened in the Dunedin electorate and the margin in favour of Clark was over 13,000. There is something really badly wrong when a nation votes in droves in favour of idiots. The world really has turned upside down this time.’

      pdm1946

      October 19, 2020 at 8:42 am

  3. PDM we all agree the Labour adminstration is appaling but it is up to National to show they are a better alternative but instead they chose to self destruct

    I was all set to vote for them until they rolled Simon Bridges which was extremely dumb and if the caucus isn’t smart enough to grasp how dumb it was, especially in light of the almost instantaneous implosion of SB’s replacement then they are clearly not smart enough to run the country tragic as that may be for the Nation

    Andrei

    October 19, 2020 at 9:28 am

  4. The problem with all this criticism of the National Party is that politics is not a spectator sport. That Labour is better in some respects than National is irrelevant: you need to vote according to your assessment of the country’s (and your) needs, not because some individual did something you don’t like. A lot of people voted for a party other than National or ACT or for Labour because of superficial reasons, eg Jacinda’s lovely smile, or because Muller rolled Bridges and now look what a fine mess you’ve got me in, Stanley. The Nats will come again and voting for Labour should only happen if you want more welfare, more unions, more Maori separatism, more woke and more taxes, all of which we are now going to get.

    Max Ritchie

    October 19, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    • That Labour is better in some respects than National is irrelevant: you need to vote according to your assessment of the country’s (and your) needs, not because some individual did something you don’t like.

      It is nothing to do with whether or not individuals do something you do or do not like it is whether you believe they are fit and proper people to rule the country and I put it to you the l;evels of deceit, duplicity and disloyalty displayed by National MPs during the last parliamentary term suggest that they are not fit and proper people to entrust with the future of this country and the people have spoken and I guess the mesage is,,,

      Andrei

      October 19, 2020 at 2:34 pm

  5. Labour has been the Party that all its life has learned to fight from the Gutter – the original Unions (Luddites) saw to that- at the time maybe they were not wrong but this is now.
    We have seen how we are constantly lied to from the Beehive but a small group of professionals – this does not include Cindy – she is a product if this faction only.

    Paulus

    October 20, 2020 at 7:45 am

  6. “It’s Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain

    That cover it Paulus>

    Most of the voting public in NZ aren’t interested in facts or policy. They vote on emotion now as they are a generation apart from us.

    National tried to run a facts based policy when the situation demanded emotional based response.

    Also a stupid Facebook orientated social media campaign , probably run from some Wellington based nupties didnt help.

    Judith got lumbered with that but probably should have gone with he gut what ever that was. Sucking up Labour policy and being a degree different was not the correct approach.

    Being Crusher at an emotional level would have been better.

    Never mind its a Socialist nivana now and I’m wallowing in it!

    But just waiting for the bill (the difference between Govt revenue and Govt expenditure)… now that will be eye watering

    rossco

    October 20, 2020 at 6:41 pm

  7. Common sense and the obvious tells us in the next election Collins needs to take votes off Adern.

    I guess an insider like yourself may know what Collins true thoughts on the strategy that should have been but the one adopted wasn’t the right one….clearly!

    She needs to dump the baggage, Brownley, the twat from Nelson, those old blue rinse biddies who keep popping up and interfering, as the damage is deep. Look no further than Clutha Southland, or Ohariu valley in Wellington.

    2 degrees of separation from Labour wont cut it. You have you brand and you market the shit out of it. The trouble is National dont know what their brand is anymore and in my view that goes back to the fork in the road, Don Brash versus Key. They took the shiny pants vacuous route, the money salesman over substance whose strategy was 2 degrees of separation. His failure was manifest in the flag debate.

    The damage to the National brand absorbed 12 years or more, and is still there for all to see..

    Coming back from that wont be easy.

    To my mind the Covid Election should have been down and dirty. Showing Adern up for a liar she is, taking the opposite view on Covid, not 1 degree of separation. Sweden and UK and other countries research show it is a bad case of the flu. The battle should have been a review of Labours poor strategy, making her justify the cost of a lockdown, destroying her credibility, not telling us they would save $5 billion dollars over 25 years…..sheeesh!

    What is Nationals Brand ? I don’t know. People more intelligent than me will have to work that out. They have 3 years but it can be done.

    People tire of socialism petty quickly

    rossco

    October 20, 2020 at 8:35 pm


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