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This followed an earlier incident last month at Puketona, just 10k from Paihia, where a police officer was shot at from close range. The two men involved are still on the run.

The incident in Paihia yesterday where a couple attempted to force a man to withdraw money from his ASB account, foiled when the bank staff triggered a silent alarm, which saw the woman arrested and the man fighting for his life after he crashed the car he was driving shows, yet again, just how stupid and woke the gun legislation passed as a knee jerk reaction to the Christchurch shootings is. It is reported that the man, already on bail, has close ties to the Tribesman Motorcycle gang. Two loaded firearms were found in the crashed car.

This crap legislation took away guns from law abiding citizens while the criminal underclass cocked their collective snoots. They are never going to give up their firearms. New Zealand is NOT a safer place because of the legislation. Believe that and I have a bridge to sell you going cheap.

Matt King lost his seat because of that legislation. I know that he and a few fellow MPs argued in caucus against supporting the legislation. They were overruled by the ‘wets’ and it was one of the many reasons that rural voters defected to ACT in droves. National didn’t need to support the legislation. Labour had the numbers to pass it after they whipped NZF into line. They could have abstained or alternatively allowed MPs a free vote on the matter. Act in haste, regret at leisure. And right now I suspect (hope) there is a fair bit of regret going on.

I expect this from Labour and the Greens. I don’t expect that from a Party that promotes personal responsibility and freedom.

Written by The Veteran

December 1, 2020 at 3:05 pm

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  1. Only slightly relevant but your description of a pair forcing someone to make a withdrawal from their account prompted recall of an event recently relayed to me from a trusted source. A young Wellington Hospital health professional, male, Asian, was at an ATM in Newtown when two gang members (Mob I think) forced him to take out $2000 and hand it over. The ‘harrassed’ individual didn’t feel able to deny the request fearing for his personal safety. Given his occupation it may well have been during hours when few other people were on the streets. When he went to the nearest police station to report the theft he was told there was nothing the police could do because he had given them the money.


    December 1, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    • Lindsay: it’s a bit hard to believe that the police said that. The victim was threatened? Or did the Mobsters just ask him for some money with no threats? If the latter then I suppose technically no crime was committed. But if he felt threatened then surely there’s a case to answer. What does one do in these circumstances? Go to the Police Conduct people?

      Max Ritchie

      December 1, 2020 at 7:07 pm

  2. Reblogged this on Utopia, you are standing in it!.

    Jim Rose

    December 1, 2020 at 5:38 pm

  3. Vet: I suspect that the liberal part of caucus was emphatic in their support of this legislation. I know Seymour was excoriated for his sole vote against. The Nat lefties mostly gone of course. Only the MP for BoP yet to do the decent thing and sod off to obscurity, letting someone who can actually show some spine represent this safe National seat.

    Max Ritchie

    December 1, 2020 at 7:11 pm

  4. Seems to me a good reason to impose a $1,000 limit on ATM withdrawals.


    December 1, 2020 at 7:26 pm

  5. The thing that really pissed me off was how crude and stupid the legilsation was when the answer was to simply require anybody wanting a semi-automatic rifle to have the same class gun licence required for pistol owners.

    And of course that class includes semi-automatic pistols, which are still used by hundreds, possibly thousands of New Zealanders. I suppose I’m giving away a secret here because those owners kept very quiet, knowing how ignorant most people are about guns and also knowing that – should you want to – a lot of damage can be done by someone armed with semi-auto pistols and plenty of spare mags.

    I’d like to think the cops really are enforcing all the hoops one must jump through to get such a licence, but then I thought they were with ordinary guh owners before the Aussie clusterfuck; a gaming friend FFS.

    Tom Hunter

    December 1, 2020 at 9:56 pm

  6. Max, Advice was to go to the IPCA. Whether he took it I don’t know yet.


    December 2, 2020 at 3:24 pm

  7. Remember.
    This is my rifle
    This is my gun
    This is for fighting
    And this is for fun…

    You can tell they weren’t in the military

    George Black

    December 3, 2020 at 7:37 am

  8. But this is my shotgun which is not rifled.


    December 3, 2020 at 9:05 am

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