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So more evidence that the Ardern government kowtows to China with the revelation that we have refused to join a whole range of countries including the United States, Australia, the UK, Canada, South Korea, Japan (and eight others) along with the EU in speaking out against the much criticised World Health Organisation report into the origins of Covid-19 in China. A report that saw Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the WHO Director-General acknowledging that China had withheld data from the investigating team. Tedros said in a press conference “In my discussions with the team they expressed the difficulties they encountered in accessing raw data” … a press conference which was seemingly censored in the Chinese media.

Back here our foreign minister, one of the two main apologists for China in the Ardern cabinet, said our officials were still studying the report. A cynic might opine our response (lack of) is conditioned by the new trade deal we have just signed with China. Clearly pragmatism ‘trumps’ (bad word) principle in Labour’s lexicon.

New Zealand … the way you’ve got it.

Written by The Veteran

April 4, 2021 at 3:34 pm

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  1. Tsk tsk tsk

    The biggest Governmental cock up in our lifetime and you want to blame China because the failing Nations of the West, ruled over mediocrities and who have surrendered everything the better generations who came before built to the East now want to delay the rise of the East.

    Blaming China is “look a squirrel”

    What is really depressing is to see is how many people cannot see what a crock this whole pandemic is

    According to the MOH there are 69 active cases of the deadly disease currently in this Nation with nobody in hospital let alone ICU

    Only 1% of the people identified with this disease have died and only one of them was under 70 and he probably died of heart disease anyway.

    Still every civilization fails eventually, due to the stupidity of the ruling classes and the vapidity of their subjects but it doesn’t make it any less sad to be watching it unfold


    April 4, 2021 at 5:23 pm



    April 4, 2021 at 5:56 pm

  3. It is simply confirmation your FM is slow to comprehend the written word. Not the brightest spark in the bonfire. And yes, Andrei is right on the money.


    April 4, 2021 at 7:06 pm

  4. Andrei … we agree to disagree that Covid is nothing more than the common cold (albeit on steroids). Arguing that puts you fair and square with those who would have it that the moon landing back in 1968 was shot in a studio somewhere in Pasadena. Lets park that.

    As to China and one interpretation of what they are doing is that they have learned well from the gunboat diplomacy inflicted on that country in the late 1800s/early 1900s by the UK, USA, Imperial Russia, Japan and Germany and that could well be right. China (like Japan post 1918) needs to extend its sphere of influence and access to raw materials in order for the regime to survive. They’re doing that. The question then arises ‘how far is too far … how much is too much’. When do you stop turning a blind eye to their treatment of the Uighur minority. When do you put your money where your mouth is in acting to counter the Chinese ‘purchase’ of vulnerable Pacific Island countries … at what point do you say enough is enough? Clearly as far as NZL is concerned that point is somewhat distant. Problem for us is that when you lie down with a flea ridden dog some of those fleas are likely to jump ship.

    The Australians in this instance have got it about right. NZL right now is on the wrong side of history.

    The Veteran

    April 4, 2021 at 8:14 pm

    • Arguing that puts you fair and square with those who would have it that the moon landing back in 1968 was shot in a studio somewhere in Pasadena. Lets park that.


      Or are you following the well trodden path of those who clung doggedly to the geocentric model of the Universe, rejected James Clerk Maxwell’s theory of electromagnetism, or Einstein’s special theory of Relativity

      Even more on point Joseph Goldberger’s theory that Pellagra was caused by a dietery deficiency was initially rejected because received wisdom held it was an unknown germ that was the culprit.

      In the early years of the 20th century Pellagra killed more Americans in the Southern States than Coronavirus allegedly has in the 21st and yet most people today have never heard of it because Joseph Goldberger was right and the issue was easily resolvable

      Of course the real issue with the Chinese data in the WHO report is that it doesn’t match with the doom and gloom scenarios being peddled to us ergo the Chinese must be lying

      I’m still waiting for the mass hetrosexual AIDS epidemic we were promised back in the eighties, an era when we were all supposed to be starving to death because of overpopulation as predicted by Paul Ehrlich back in the 1960s

      I am not defending China on anything Vet, just wryly noting that the majority of the worlds population live in the Far East and they are far better at making useful things than the modern West is. and if the West does not turn that around in short order China will soon predominate

      But the signs are we wont, cowering in our homes, with most economic activity on hold for months at a time to avoid a virus that doesn’t make most people very ill, if ill at all is not the path to greatness


      April 5, 2021 at 12:16 am

  5. Interesting comments over at Kiwiblog from one “Ngatimozart”,
    particularly this one detailing the technical weaknesses of our military

    We don’t have the surveillance, enforcement and military capabilities to detect and deter such PRC activities, especially because not all boats in their fishing fleets are legitimate fishing boats. About half of them are Peoples Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) Maritime Militia ships which have strengthened hulls and bows. These are used to ram local enforcement agency ships when they try to board a PRC fishing vessel.

    We definitely require a third frigate immediately and at least three or four more OPVs with better capabilities than the Otago or Wellington. That would give us five – six OPVs, plus the Southern Ocean one. A further two P-8A should be acquired as well and soon, because the long lead items line will be shutting down in the not to distant future. And that’s just the start. Besides building NZDF back up again, we also have to increase NZ’s resilience across the board; everything from food to fuel, clothing to electronics.

    Can’t see it happening under any government. Besides the traditional stinginess and the confidence that our isolation will save us the simple fact is that our economy is even more exposed to China than Australia’s is and if China pulled the same stunts against us as they have against Australia we’d be in much more trouble.

    Tom Hunter

    April 5, 2021 at 8:40 am

  6. You are absolutely right – it won’t happen under any government, not in the foreseeable future anyway. NZ governments since forever have resisted anything like a reasonable commitment to the nation’s security. No third frigate – should be 4 if we are to guarantee the ability to have 1 or sometimes 2 at sea – and nothing resembling a proper air capacity. The army no better. We certainly couldn’t put a battalion into action and I doubt we could even commit a company other than short term. So when the Chinese armed fishing boat rebuffs our ship what do we do? Ask it nicely to give us back our fish? Apologize to their ambassador for inconveniencing his countrymen? Sadly NZ’s armed forces have never been adequately equipped or manned. NZ’s young men – and next time young women – pay the immediate price but we all do in the long term.

    Max Ritchie

    April 5, 2021 at 12:46 pm

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