No Minister

Reckless (with your love)

Kristi Noem

One of our more prolific commentators stated some weeks ago that the Republican governor of South Dakota had been one of the most “reckless” governors in the USA when it came to dealing with the Chinese Lung Rot pandemic.

She was supposedly condemned by two things. First, her own words:

For those of you who don’t know, South Dakota is the only state in America that never ordered a single business or church to close. We never instituted a shelter in place order. We never mandated that people wear masks. We never even defined what an essential business is, because I don’t believe that governors have the authority to tell you that your business isn’t essential.

I provided all of the information that we had to our people, and then I trusted them to make the best decisions for themselves, for their families, and in turn, their communities. We never focused on the case numbers. Instead, we kept our eye on hospital capacity.

Even in a pandemic, public health policy needs to take into account people’s economic and social wellbeing. Daily needs still need to be met. People need to keep a roof over their heads. They need to feed their families. And they still need purpose. They need their dignity. Now my administration resisted the call for virus control at the expense of everything else. We looked at the science, the data and the facts, and then we took a balanced approach.

Balance instead of an autistic approach to a problem? Trusting ordinary people to make the right decisions? Are you crazy? Soon you’ll have them selecting their leaders by voting.

Second, supposedly by the results. For months into the pandemic South Dakota was doing very well, much better than the likes of New York, whose Governor, Andrew Cuomo, was receiving all the plaudits that Noem was not – while killing thousands of elderly people by forcing them out of hospitals (to make space for the Covid-19 wave) and into home care and hospice facilities, who were not allowed to test them for Covid.

But as with all diseases it eventually got to South Dakota and its death rate rose. However the assumption – even in the face of states that supposedly did all the right things, including lockdowns, and still have higher death rates – is that South Dakota did it wrong and that being a rural state they would have done much better if only Noem had followed the conventional wisdom of Public Health officials.

Thus the best comparison is not SD to NY but to a similar state: North Dakota, which did follow the instructions of Fauci and the CDC. Here’s restricted N.Dakota vs. no-restrictions S.Dakota.

Even more interesting when you learn that S.D had a 9 day bike rally event in August with approximately 500,000 attendees yet their case patterns fared better than their northern neighbour.

During the winter surge of cases there is no statistically significant difference in case-load between the two states.

Then there’s this graph comparing the death rates between lockdown and non-lockdown states.

Finally there’s Texas. On March 10th their governor lifted the mask mandate, only to be immediately greeted with a blast from the ambulatory root vegetable currently acting as the US President, to the effect that lifting the mandate was “Neanderthal thinking” (The Neanderthals really don’t deserve this abuse) as opposed to those wonderful states that follow the “science”.

The result. Note especially the recent mini-surge in Michigan, New Jersey and New York, who are still following the “science”.

We always hear “just wait 2 weeks and you’ll see cases spike” when restrictions are lifted. On March 10 Texas lifted all their restrictions and opened up their society. I guess the science is different in Texas than Michigan and New York, right?

This led to an embarrassing interview with Dr Fauci, who is yet another octogenarian US government member that should be put out to pasture. Can you believe that this bureaucrat is the highest paid member of the US government (spare me the medical doctor routine, he hasn’t practiced medicine in decades)

Let’s be blunt: after all his flip-flops he simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Despite the previous burbling over his wrong predictions he went on in the same interview to predict that the Texas Rangers opening season baseball game could spark another Covid wave. FFS!

The possibility that Democrat politicians and Deep State midgets could possibly be wrong just doesn’t occur to them, not for one hot second.

Written by Tom Hunter

April 12, 2021 at 1:00 pm

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  1. You may support her. In my view her decision was utterly wrong. In comparison to neighbouring states (which is the relevant comparison) the death rate from covid is much higher. Her approach, while it might appeal to a Libertarian such as yourself, was an abandonment of the responsibility of government to protect. Her decision meant hundreds of older people in the state died unnecessarily.
    Thank goodness New Zealand (and Australia) did not take such an approach. The outcome would have been hundreds, maybe even thousands, dead here. To my mind that prospect is enough to justify the actions of the last twelve months.
    Having said that, it seems the government is botching the vaccination programme. They will pay a political price for that.

    Wayne

    April 12, 2021 at 2:04 pm

    • Funny thing is, I thought North Dakota and South Dakota were neighboring states.

      adolffinkensen

      April 12, 2021 at 2:42 pm

    • Her decision wasn’t wrong of course – it is only wrong if you are a brain dead leftoid who cannot distinguish the diffrenence between the death 96 year old alheimers patient in a nursing home and that of a healthy five year old child, the former being life as we know it on planet earth and the later, though unseen in the “pandemic™” because the dreaded COVID-19 barely impacts this demographic , a tragedy.

      It is sad watch this mass outbreak of mass insanity among the over educated dolts who control the cultural narrative of the 21st century and who are crashing the global economy and perhaps Western Civilization itself in a orgy of utter foolishness.that would astonish previous generations who had far more difficult issues to deal with than the common fucking cold, given a new name and reimagined as the 21st centuries version of the black death

      The black death as you might recall took out 2 people out of every 3, regardless of age and not just elderly people with multiple health issues

      Andrei

      April 12, 2021 at 4:19 pm

  2. Andrei,

    Forget the insults, and debate like a reasonable person. You might think over 90% of New Zealanders are brain dead, including every leading epidemiological scientist, but that is not a credible position to take. No-one who is responsible thinks it is no more than the “common ***** cold”. Even South Dakota’s Governor would not think that.

    Your approach has less merit that those of the climate deniers, where there is at least some credible science to back their case.

    Wayne

    April 12, 2021 at 7:31 pm

    • Just so we can be sure of the consistent standards you apply to such things, you’ll be fine with proclaiming that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo was “Reckless ++” or some such for ordering elderly people out of the hospitals (during the whole “we need to lock down to flatten the curve” period) and into rest homes while ordering such places not to test them for Covid-19.

      Because right now that decision is looking like it cost the lives of at least 10,000 old folk in New York, all while he was being celebrated as showing outstanding leadership and decision-making skills in the midst of the crisis by your trusted MSM sources.

      Admittedly there are several other governors, like Michigan’s Whitmer, who made the same choice, but at least they were not getting lauded in the MSM at the time.

      But they’re all Democrats and they supposedly followed the “science” on this so they’ve got a pass from you for a year on this and other blogs where you comment, Not surprising as you’ve made it clear that you’re just like them. No wonder you’ve been so silent for months on… what did you call it… the abandonment of the responsibility of government to protect.?

      Tom Hunter

      April 12, 2021 at 10:01 pm

  3. By the way I checked with World-o-meter this morning, which is regarded as authoritative. I do this regularly so I am fully ware pot the different death rates in the high plains and mountain states. South Dakota has been the worst for many months.

    South Dakota has had 2,201 deaths per million and North Dakota has had 1,930 per million. About 200 to 300 more deaths in South Dakota based on the population.

    The testing rate is 512,000 per million in South Dakota and 553,000 in North Dakota. I imagine this difference goes a long way toward explaining your graph. South Dakota is not testing enough to pick up all its cases.

    Wayne

    April 13, 2021 at 7:30 am

    • Are you really serious here Wayne? You spout numbers with no real insight.

      Do you know what the population of South Dakota is? So for 200 deaths difference you would shut the State down because TINA.

      Could it possibly be, given the numbers you spout, based on the relatively small populations, there is actually no statistical difference between the two states?

      Paranormal

      April 13, 2021 at 10:44 am

  4. Actually, yes. NZ and Australia go into lockdown when there are a few dozen cases. Why?
    To avoid thousands of cases, and dozens of deaths. You might think 200 extra deaths in a population of just over 1 million is no big deal. Translated to New Zealand it would be 1,000 deaths. I don’t know any New Zealanders who think that would be no big issue. Though obviously I am aware that you and Andrei seem to be of that view.

    Wayne

    April 13, 2021 at 8:19 pm

    • Typical politician. You’ve well avoided the point Wayne – that there is actually little to no statistical difference between the two: lockdown or not = the Dakotas show the outcomes are so close, they’re the same.

      You do know that no-one gets out of this (i.e. life) alive? You’re not really “saving” anyone, just marginally delaying the inevitable in the demographic impacted by Covid.

      The thing you and your authoritarian ilk completely ignore: What about measuring “savings” against the cost of the lockdown? Yes a few elderly lives “saved”, but what about all the lives impacted due to the lockdown? The hospital waiting lists blowing out as just one example. A colleague needs an operation to improve quality of life, they’re in excruciating pain everyday and it’s just getting worse – North Shore hospital are only now just up to the June 2020 operations.

      Paranormal

      April 13, 2021 at 9:39 pm

    • Extra deaths Wayne? More like displaced death. One flu death rate has been replaced by another flu, and other deaths mis-reported as Covid, as well as the Covid deaths being exaggerated. This is all common knowledge.

      There is very little, or minor blips in the 10 year death rate of most countries.

      Also from the scientists who we dont hear from publically, for again well known reasons to do with the MSM, there is quite a body of thought on mis handling the response. After all it is a flu and our bodies through thousands of years of evolution have been designed to fight flu. Delaying its transmission through lockdowns gives it a far better chance to evolve faster.

      And lastly due to policy makers wilful ignorance of statistics as Paranormal reports the policy response has not been based on a cost benefit analysis or simple financial analysis. Thats because the MOH reacted prematurely, but late with policy analysis, and not enough was done by other departments, notably Treasury

      For instance Wayne you probably dont know that deaths are concentrated in the over 75’s. Tell us what your policy response would be if you knew this fact Wayne?

      In some ways Wayne your Govt has fucked up the vaccine program, nothing new here, but it could well be a blessing in disguise. Not enough research as been done on its effects, and based on my analysis it should be targeted to the over 75’s.

      Everybody else, sorry use your immune system.

      Anyway heres a link to South Carolina. I selected them as they have a population similar to ours, just over 5m people. They also have blacks which is a proxy for our Brown Bros. Wallow in that Wayne and see if you can find deaths by age group.

      https://scdhec.gov/covid19

      You can then compare it to Italy’s age by death group which is available on statista.com, Italy.

      Report back when you have been through both those sites.

      rossco

      April 14, 2021 at 9:12 am

  5. The other question which is being ignored is the economic opportunity cost of the lockdowns, the poverty tomorrow that these lockdowns are perpetuating, for very little or no health care benefit.

    This is also the same economic argument which surrounds climate change, though it’s worse, everyone agrees that Covid related deaths are undesirable, however I’m not not sure a modest 1 to 1.5 degree increase in global temperature is undesirable. Historically we as a species have thrived in temperatures up to 6 degree higher than now.

    alloytoo

    April 14, 2021 at 10:10 am

  6. Seriously Rossco, you don’t think I know something as basic as the fact that most covid deaths are among those 75 and over. I have posted enough on this issue for you to know that I have read widely on covid. So spare the insults. It is exasperating to have to keep saying this.

    I know you, Tom, Andrei and now Paranormal think that the New Zealand (left wing govt) and Australia (right wing govt) approach is complete lunacy. But somehow you can’t convince even 10% of the population of both countries of that. Though of course your answer is that the 90% of us are ignorant, naive fools.

    Wayne

    April 14, 2021 at 4:41 pm

    • Thanks Wayne for the reply, and nice deflection of the ball to silly mid on. No answer of substance then.

      If you knew so much about the death rate why is your answer so coloured by the lack of that knowledge.

      I await, overnight, your policy response, unless of course it is the MSM’s. It cant be as they display total ignorance and to adopt their’s would be adopt a position of ignorance too.

      Mate this should be meat and potatoes to a ex Minister of Defence, you must have written more policy papers than I have curries?

      rossco

      April 14, 2021 at 6:15 pm

  7. But somehow you can’t convince even 10% of the population of both countries of that.

    It’s rather difficult to convince a majority of any population that have been scared to death by a hysterical MSM and the usual panic-mongers. The madness of crowds and such, even as bureaucrats.

    But the fact is that other governments around the world, whether State or Central, that went the lockdown route, and are still willing to bring on crushing lockdowns to fight a virus, are starting to lose popularity the longer this goes on. Merkel in Germany recently had to rescind her latest panic attack for an Easter lockdown about surging Covid case numbers when the backlash proved too great. Whitmer in Michigan is now facing harsh attacks because of the case surge there to which she has only “lockdown” as a response. California. New York. New Jersey. The leaders of those states are all increasingly in serious political trouble, unlike Noem or – for large-state comparisons – the leaders of Texas and Florida.

    The hammer has been used too many times for this particular nail.

    And that’s before we get to the economic and public health problems that will slowly emerge as a result of statist, Muldoon-like authoritarian, lockdown fanatics like you having their way. There are huge questions arising around how much any economy, be it Europe, China, the USA or NZ, can long run on the fumes of the zero-interest QE being employed to resuscitate locked-downed economies. Not to mention the suicides of kids deprived of social interaction at school, the delayed health care treatments for cancer and the like.

    But I suppose as long as it saved your 72 year old butt and 2% of your Boomer mates, anything was worth the cost.

    Tom Hunter

    April 14, 2021 at 5:18 pm

  8. I am not 72, in fact not yet 70.

    Wayne

    April 14, 2021 at 5:21 pm

    • Good heavens. So you are. Even less excuse then.

      Tom Hunter

      April 14, 2021 at 5:25 pm


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