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THIS ISN’T THE WAY FORWARD FOR NZL

The revelation by Judith Collins that the Government’s Cabinet Paper on the restructuring of the health service has it that the proposed Maori Health Authority will have veto power over decisions made by Health New Zealand is disturbing news indeed. Begs the question … what does the government hope to achieve by separating our healthcare along racial lines and then placing the power of veto in the hands of one race-based institution?

Gives rise to a second question … is this what we might expect down the track with the education and justice sectors?

The smiling face of the countries virtue signaler-in-chief belies the simple truth that Labour (and the Greens), enjoying as they do a super majority in Parliament, are running a hitherto secret agenda that bodes ill for the countries future and there’s very little ‘we’ can do about it in the short term at least.

New Zealand the way you’ve got it.

Written by The Veteran

April 29, 2021 at 11:02 am

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  1. Is it this one?

    Cabinet Minute PDF

    [MOD: Noel, I’ve embedded your link into that line as it was not displaying. Also deleted your second attempt since this should be okay now, although the comments box is being a bit silly at present.]

    Noel

    April 29, 2021 at 11:35 am

    • Yes … go to para 52 for confirmation.

      The Veteran

      April 29, 2021 at 12:10 pm

  2. Meh. If you believe in “systemic racism”, and I think both you and Wayne Mapp have said that you do, at least for the USA, and if you accept that “disparate impact” – the negative stats of Maori WRT health, crime, homelessness, poverty and so forth – are demonstrable proof that systemic racism exists, then you will accept this steady and growing bifurcation of our healthcare and education systems whereby Maori control their own destiny instead of relying on a racist public system.

    And if you and Wayne are not outliers in the National Party, and I don’t think you are, then you’ll soon be made aware that the arguments about systemic racism and disparate impact that are applied to the USA can be just as easily applied to every other Western nation, including New Zealand.

    Oh, and according to two relatives of mine who are JP’s, similar things are already well underway in the field of criminal justice.

    Tom Hunter

    April 29, 2021 at 11:59 am

  3. Well I guess if this is the way forward then it applies equally to the taxation system.?

    I am sure systematic racism is prevalent in the IRD and the way they apply tax collection.

    All people who identify as Maori can have their income tax diverted to paying for their bifuricated healthcare and other services and I guess GST can be diverted on a proportion of the population who identify as “Brown” native, ethic, been here since 1350.

    Gosh we are in for fun times. All fighting over splitting up the cake.

    The trouble is the people in charge of the cake, at the moment, are in bottom quartile of intelligence and likely to stay there.

    Oh dear.

    rossco

    April 29, 2021 at 12:22 pm

  4. Didn’t South Africa go down this road with apartheid and we all jumped in and told them how bad they were? How things have changed.

    uncoffined

    April 29, 2021 at 12:31 pm

  5. Tom … New Zealand and the USA are two quite different entities and thank God for that and no, I don’t believe there is systemic racism in New Zealand … it’s a shibboleth. Rather there are generations, Maori and Pakeha, who have been conditioned to believe that personal responsibility is dirty word … and so it is with health. Health starts with the person (lifestyle choices) and when state intervention is needed it should be provided on the basis of need not ethnicity.

    Good to see Judith Collins saying that so clearly and if woke journos want to portray that as playing the race card that’s their problem, not mine.

    I again make the point that there is an agenda in play here and separatism in a multi-cultural society is not a way forward.

    The Veteran

    April 29, 2021 at 12:57 pm

  6. Well Vet, you can argue that that shouldn’t be the way forward but that’s we’ve got, not helped by the National Party skirting round the issue over recent years. I recall at a dinner a few years back when John Key said to me that getting rid of the race-based seats – NP policy – was not a high priority for him. And remember Doug Graham started this whole palaver. Even my MP Simon Bridges said that getting rid of the Maori seats would be too divisive. The National Party needs to man up and I’m pleased to see that Judith Collins is just the bloke to do it. Brash’s Orewa speech is very good policy.

    Max Ritchie

    April 29, 2021 at 1:59 pm

  7. Max … the Maori seats are what they are and, thanx to MMP, they’re not going away any time soon. So the pragmatic approach is to acknowledge that in not contesting them and you’re going into the election with one hand effectively tied behind your back. Yep, you can be pure and argue you’re making a principled choice but equally you can also argue that the extra Party votes to be obtained by having a presence in those seats could be the difference between being in government and able to do the things that need to be done/undone and not being able to do anything at all.

    There are bigger fish to fry than the Maori seats which, I repeat, are no going away any time soon so its rather pointless in getting into a tither about them.

    No, you fight the battles you can win on the ground of your own choosing and opposing a Maori Health Authority with the power to veto the decisions of the Health Authority charged with looking after the rest of the nation is a fight worth having and clearly Judith Collins is seized with that.

    The Veteran

    April 29, 2021 at 2:45 pm

  8. No Maori seats was/is National party policy, for Heaven’s sake. If you’re not going to do it then change the policy. What I’m talking about is National have two bob each way. Make up your mind – do you favour racial discrimination or not. Tinkering around a health body is peanuts.

    Max Ritchie

    April 29, 2021 at 6:11 pm

    • What I’m talking about is National have two bob each way.

      Chuckle. As perfectly demonstrated by this comment over on Chris Trotter’s Anzac Day post, Anzac Day 2021: Myths Under Pressure.:

      I think we have a pretty good country here in Aotearoa New Zealand.

      Don’t you just love that centrist effort. It’s from Wayne Mapp. Because of course it is.

      Tom Hunter

      April 29, 2021 at 6:38 pm

  9. Chris Trotter has some advice for National and The Veteran at Bowalley Road. You either believe in equality or you are a racist – there are no other options. Time to be principled. I have Maori grandchildren. You can’t tell me that they are somehow different, more needy or entitled than the rest of the family. They are actually better off than the others but that’s by the bye. To each according to their need. Pretty simple rule which is actually National Party policy.

    Max Ritchie

    April 30, 2021 at 5:43 pm


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