No Minister

ON SHOW – THE INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY OF ST JACINDA’S ENABLERS

Those precious people who rush to condemn Judith Collin’s condemnation of the proposal to create a separate Maori Health Authority with veto powers over decisions made by NZ Health, the body charged with looking after the health of 83.5% of all other New Zealanders, as racist are demonstrating their intellectual dishonesty. This is a matter for serious debate … yes it involves race based policy … but no, opposing that policy is not racist per se. It is a legitimate response to a massive policy switch that seeks to shift the paradigm from need based to race based … and that is wrong and out-of-step with multi-cultural New Zealand.

And it needs to be seen against the Government commissioned and Te Puni Kokiri driven ‘He Puapua’ Report which calls, among other things, for a Maori Upper House able to veto decisions of Parliament and foreshadows separate Maori educational and justice systems.

While the Ardern Government has yet to respond to the Report you can fairly ask if the proposed changes to the health system are a tacit endorsement of that proposed in Te Puapua with more to come.

Judith Collins should be applauded for speaking out on this … a hitherto secret agenda exposed and, like the Emperor without any clothes, not a pretty sight. Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out with the ‘Waitakere Man’ so called.

Written by The Veteran

May 4, 2021 at 12:45 pm

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  1. This is a matter for serious debate … yes it involves race based policy … but no, opposing that policy is not racist per se

    Sheesh, Vet, when are you and other National Party folk going to clue in on these tactics? Explaining is losing and you’re wasting your time justifying why your opposition to these policies is “not racist”.

    Your opponents don’t care. They’re not being “intellectual” and they don’t care about dishonest. The vast majority of them likely don’t even believe that you and yours are racists. It’s simply a catcall designed to put you on the defensive (and it’s clearly working) and then shut you up entirely. It’s Will To Power.

    That’s all it is.

    For what it’s worth, I’d run right over the top of being called a racist, ignore it, don’t respond as you have here, and just call them racist separatists pushing racist policies. You at least would be able to explain why.

    Tom Hunter

    May 4, 2021 at 1:27 pm

  2. Tom … those attacking Collins are dishonest racists. They are weaponising the word racist in order to divert attention away from any critical examination of what the policy means going forward. They need to be called out for what they are and the policy put under the microscope and that’s what Collins rightly called for … and what Labour’s enablers fear hence their taux outrage. Just a tad surprised that you don’t see it this way … it’s not what I would have expected from an ACT loyalist.

    The Veteran

    May 4, 2021 at 3:07 pm

    • those attacking Collins are dishonest racists……They need to be called out …

      Yes, yes. I know that. But it will have no effect on them or their voters. As I said, they don’t care about “intellectually dishonest” so “calling them out” is a waste of time. They have no shame about doing such things, especially since they’ve won so many fights using that weapon over the last few decades. They’ll just call you a racist and deflect the argument into that bunfight.

      Tom Hunter

      May 4, 2021 at 5:40 pm

    • Also this:

      And this

      Tom Hunter

      May 4, 2021 at 7:39 pm

    • And you might take notice of this article from National Review looking back at all the screeching about boycotting the state of Georgia because the GOP state government changed the voting laws. You may remember President Dim Bulb Biden burbling about it was not just Jim Crow but a super-powered version he called Jim Eagle.

      And now….How the Boycott-Georgia Movement Flopped.

      Basically the woke CEO’s of Delta Airlines and Coke have STFU because they’ve reached the stunning conclusion that hating a bunch of your own consumers for political reasons is not smart business. The Democrat morons like Stacey Abrams – who still thinks she lost the governor’s race because the election was “stolen” but yet is regarded highly enough to write guest op-eds for USA Today – suddenly realised they were screwing their voters in the pocketbook as they screamed “racism”. Abrams now doesn’t like boycotts.

      Biden has merely shut up on the subject. Keeping his mouth shut is always advisable.

      But it’s this piece at the end that I think is relevant to National’s situation on Puapua issue:

      The lesson for conservatives is, as always: Brace yourself and do what’s right. The Democrats will oppose good policies, then lie about them, often hysterically, because that’s their playbook. They will indiscriminately and fatuously lob accusations of racism that are not even close to being true.

      Tom Hunter

      May 4, 2021 at 7:50 pm

  3. Vet: as I see Tom’s comments, it’s that that is not the argument. They don’t care what you say. His point, I think, is to argue the case itself ie attack, and not to bother about defence. So, no more two bob each way. The reasonable approach that National has favoured since forever needs to be replaced with commitment. Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood. We oppose racism in all its manifestations. No more “It’d be too divisive” as Simon Bridges said to me re the Maori seats. Divisive is actually having the Maori seats!

    Max Ritchie

    May 4, 2021 at 4:01 pm

  4. However, on the left hand, Chris Trotter thinks Judith and National may have hit gold, Shaken and Stirred: The Left Reacts To Judith Collins’ Race-Based Politicking..

    In particular how Judith approached it:

    This was no bilious outpouring of racial hate – quite the reverse. With a degree of political subtlety and tactical agility that did both Collins and her speechwriter, Michael Forbes, credit, the speech left Labour with nothing but questions to answer. Difficult questions ….

    Listening to this morning’s “Political Panel”, I found it impossible not to imagine Brigette Morten sitting in the RNZ studio with a grin as wide as a Cheshire Cat’s. Seeing, as we, the listeners, were hearing, Neale’s discomfort, Morten must have recognised just what a winner Collins has picked.

    Tom Hunter

    May 4, 2021 at 7:55 pm

  5. Tom … thank you for posting that piece from Chris Trotter. The He Puapua report and the government’s reaction to it evidenced by their intention to create a health system based on ethnicity and not need is I think a short fused time-bomb ready to explode in St Jacinda’s (not so smiley) face. Collin’s is on the money.

    Max … I can only repeat what I said earlier. The abolition of the Maori seats in Parliament is a lost cause. You fight the battles you and win and cut your losses on those you can’t. MMP makes continued retention of those seats a near certainty and you waste time and energy arguing for something that’s not going to happen any time soon (if ever). But the He Puapua report is a different story … a different story indeed and this a battle that can and must be won.

    The Veteran

    May 5, 2021 at 10:21 am

  6. Gerald … then I suggest she reads it a second time. Heavy going I know but ….

    The Veteran

    May 5, 2021 at 3:03 pm

  7. Jesus Christ, Gerald.
    Can’t you ever actually do anything more than drop links to documents and “Fact Check” URL’s? Does being a Labour drone mean never having to make an argument? FFS!

    Tom Hunter

    May 5, 2021 at 3:11 pm

  8. One has to assume that Trevor’s performance last night was dirty politics at its best, deflecting attention from the looming apartheid issue… but I maybe wrong.?

    rossco

    May 5, 2021 at 5:45 pm

  9. And just in case that runs out of legs the fishmonger has set a date with the pretend fisherman. Wow cant wait… the dress design will be tomorrows news, I guess it wont be white.

    rossco

    May 5, 2021 at 5:48 pm

  10. This may cover it better, Thank you Freddie Mercury.

    You can replace God with any word you feel comfortable with! As applies to NZ not Globalisation.

    “ONE VISION”

    God works in mysterious ways
    Mysterious ways
    Ah
    Hey!
    One man, one goal
    Ha, one mission
    One heart, one soul
    Just one solution
    One flash of light
    Yeah, one god, one vision

    One flesh, one bone, one true religion
    One voice, one hope, one real decision
    Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
    Give me one vision, yeah
    No wrong, no right
    I’m gonna tell you there’s no black and no white
    No blood, no stain
    All we need is (one worldwide vision)
    One flesh, one bone, one true religion

    One race, one hope, one real decision
    Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
    Whoa-yeah, whoa-yeah, oh yeah!
    I had a dream when I was young
    A dream of sweet illusion
    A glimpse of hope and unity
    And visions of one sweet union

    But a cold wind blows and a dark rain falls
    And in my heart, it shows
    Look what…

    rossco

    May 5, 2021 at 6:16 pm


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