No Minister

SADLY THE HAMAS LEADERS NEED TO DO IT?

Gaza is an overpopulated area for non Jewish people, too stupid to see they could be so much better off if they accept the horrendous passage taken by Jews dispossessed in the main by the assault perpetrated by Nazi Germany’s bent out of shape racists that resulted in millions having everything taken from them before being either killed in short order or worked to death in slave labour enterprises, directly led to the established State of Israel

The remnants of the pogroms and slaughterhouses ended up in their homeland from biblical times where by force they established the modern state of Israel, actually the only functioning democracy enjoying the rule of law that covers all who live within the Borders of The Jewish State. Many many have perished amidst the ongoing violence on both sides that had appeared to have diminished significantly while Donald Trump occupied The White House. In fact under his foreign policy small steps emerged that saw Islamic Nations create peace treaties with Israel.

Now with the appeasing Biden Administration installed it seems an emboldened Iran is again using the residents of Gaza to create mayhem in the middle east with Hamas launching rocket weapons towards Israeli cities, now totalling over one thousand in this latest barrage. Many fall short on Palestinians within the borders of the territory, many others are intercepted by the Iron Dome anti missile defence system but some do get through and kill people in the wrong place at a bad time. Retaliation by Israel are accompanied by specific warnings that allow non participants to flee along with all to often those who will intentionally wish to kill Israelis.

Yet there are too many who see Israel protecting themselves as a war crime and further embolden the stupids. Much of the occupations of territory around the world began under some form of force, if not in the initial migration then soon after when original occupiers became opposed. A process that litters history.

If Israel unilaterally ended all defensive actions they would cease to exist as a nation in very quick time, if the muppets being enabled by Iran and others did likewise, peace could break out just as quick. Is it time to set the second option in place and see what happens.

Written by Gravedodger

May 13, 2021 at 9:46 am

Posted in Islam, Middle East

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  1. Reblogged this on Utopia, you are standing in it!.

    Jim Rose

    May 13, 2021 at 11:19 am

  2. Suggested reading for you

    “Friendly Fire: How Israel Became Its Own Worst Enemy”

    A highly decorated Israeli military officer, leader, and former director of the internal security service, Shin Bet, sees the light on what his country must do to achieve a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

    In this deeply personal journey of discovery, Ami Ayalon seeks input and perspective from Palestinians and Israelis whose experiences differ from his own. As head of the Shin Bet security agency, he gained empathy for ‘the enemy’ and learned that when Israel carries out anti-terrorist operations in a political context of hopelessness, the Palestinian public will support violence, because they have nothing to lose.

    Researching and writing Friendly Fire, he came to understand that his patriotic life had blinded him to the self-defeating nature of policies that have undermined Israel’s civil society while heaping humiliation upon its Palestinian neighbours. ‘If Israel becomes an Orwellian dystopia,’ Ayalon writes, ‘it won’t be thanks to a handful of theologians dragging us into the dark past. The secular majority will lead us there motivated by fear and propelled by silence.” Ayalon is a realist, not an idealist, and many who consider themselves Zionists will regard as radical his conclusions about what Israel must do to achieve relative peace and security and to sustain itself as a Jewish homeland and a liberal democracy.

    Sir Loin

    May 13, 2021 at 8:52 pm

  3. Loin Chop sounds like a good read. Rather than just quoting the back jacket a review may have been more useful.

    Also ole chap be good to have the equivalent from Hamas’s side…….hello anyone home?

    Looking at the footage most of their rocket trucks look like Iranian or Chinese manufacture..any comment on that, and the fact that that the Palestinians’, ordinary ones at that, are just political pawns of a force they have no control over since one country is a democracy , the other is controlled by totally immoral organisation.

    Askin for a friend!

    rossco

    May 13, 2021 at 9:45 pm

    • Rossco, I doubt you have a friend to ask for.

      I don’t do reviews, I prefer others to read and come to their own decisions, but I did notice you and your BFF Tom getting all gushy over a review of a book neither of you appeared to have read. Maybe reading other people’s opinions is easier than forming your own.

      Looking at the footage most of the Istraeli’s weapons look like American manufacture..any comment on that, and the fact that that the Israeli’s ordinary ones at that, are just political pawns of a force they have no control over since one country is a republic, the other is controlled by totally immoral organisation.

      Sir Loin

      May 13, 2021 at 9:53 pm

  4. And that folks is an encapsulation as to why it is hard to get any real peace in what Lion refers to as Palestine and others might refer to as Israel. Arabs lose a battle go back and prepare for another, Israel loses a battle and it is all over for them.
    A mirror image of how Christendom and Islam treat each other, one seeks to coexist, the other tends to kill unbelievers, simple really.

    Gravedodger

    May 14, 2021 at 8:37 am

    • A mirror image of how Christendom and Islam treat each other, one seeks to coexist, the other tends to kill unbelievers, simple really.

      Are you unaware of the pogroms against Jews by Christians that began with the massacre of the Rhineland Jews and culminated in the Shoa? All perpetrated by Christians against Jews who simply sought to coexist.

      And now the tables have turned, it is the Palestinians who seek to coexist and the Jews who are intent on eliminating them. If Israel truly wanted peace it would put an immediate halt on further settler expansions, expansions that should never have begun. It would lift the blockade on Gaza. And it would stop murdering children trying to defend their homes.

      Little Dorrit

      May 15, 2021 at 11:09 am

  5. And President Trump carried a big stick, the result 4 years or more of peace, peace agreements, trade and what looked looked a change in a dynamic that cycled around itself.

    The incumbent is perceived to wield a zimmer frame. End of story.

    Looks like Hamas will suck in Lebanon to the conflict, a country they already control, as they have started firing rockets from there as well.

    And Loin Chop, the Greens, and parts of the Labour Party think the Palestinians and Hamas are one and the same fighting for freedom and a higher cause.

    Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

    rossco

    May 14, 2021 at 10:54 am

    • Which of these so called “Peace Deals” included Palestinians? Oh, none you say. Gee, why was that? What trade benefits did Palestinians gain? What do you mean, none?

      And you wonder why they don’t see Israel or the US as friends.

      Little Dorrit

      May 16, 2021 at 7:15 pm

  6. This is a map. This is a map of the UN proposal for two states. This is the UN that supporters of Israel cite as being the legal foundation for Israel.

    Look at the map. See who has taken a larger than intended share. And you’ll still wonder why Palestinians turn to organisations like Hamas, PLO, etc.

    Sir Loin

    May 15, 2021 at 2:14 pm

    • Ah! So the objection is that the Jews have ended up with a bigger chunk than the original plan. Fair point, but tell me again who did not agree with any of that partition?

      Tom Hunter

      May 15, 2021 at 6:42 pm

    • Tom, I understand you are a farmer of some sorts. Are you prepared to give me half your farm and then see me take half of what you had left? No, I didn’t think so.

      While we were sleeping, The Terrorist State of Israel has destroyed a building housing AP, Al Jazeera, and a number of other news companies. Targeting journalists is a war crime. But to Israel, that’s a feature, not a bug.

      Sir Loin

      May 16, 2021 at 12:07 pm

  7. I understand that you’re a Socialist of sorts. Are you prepared to give me half your wealth?

    Or better yet give it to a truly poor person.

    You can sell the other half to me, but then I’m a capitalist. 🙂

    Tom Hunter

    May 16, 2021 at 1:04 pm

    • I understand Tom thinks highly of right wing American politicians, and like them, thinks that anyone to the right of St Ronald of Hollywood is a “socialist”.

      I understand that Tom is also an expert at deflection, obfuscation, and refusal to answer questions. Probaly would have made a good presec for Trump.

      Little Dorrit

      May 16, 2021 at 7:17 pm

    • Not sure what it is that makes you think I am “a socialist of sorts”, or why, if I were, that would require giving half my wealth to you or “a poor person”.

      But at least you have confirmed that while you want the Palestinians to give up more and more of their land, you are not prepared to part with a single acre of yours. Choice.

      Sir Loin

      May 17, 2021 at 8:11 pm

  8. Loin Chop so naïve!

    Firstly AP and El Jazeera knowingly shared a 12 storey building with a known terrorist group, Hamas!

    Secondly they were given at least 1 hour to clear the building before it was selectively demolished.

    The arsehole AP reporter mistakenly wore his Hamas head band while reporting, realising his mistake he disappeared off camera to remove it. Did you see that on TV?

    So while a twat like you aligns themselves with Goldritz, Mendez and other socialists from the far left I admire how the Israelis can selectively bring down a building with no collateral damage.

    All Hamas can do is fire random rockets, 2400 o more at last count, into a sovereign state.

    They may have a beef, legitimate or otherwise but that does not excuse naked terror.

    I would suggest they take a leaf out of Mahatma Ghandi’s book…..

    If you think Hamas represents the Palestinians then you are an even bigger twat than I mentioned above, they are the terrorist arm of Iran , you moron.

    Take you alto ego, Miniature Dorrrit and go and join the Italians and watch La Travolta, they are spine less enough that you would appreciate them!

    rossco

    May 16, 2021 at 10:40 pm

    • Rossco, if I ever need your opinion, I’ll fart.

      Sir Loin

      May 17, 2021 at 8:07 pm


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