No Minister

Another argument that is no longer off-limits

One of the detailed points of argument during the Great Chinese Lung Rot pandemic was around the definition of what actually constituted a Covid-19 death.

Early in the hysteria it was pointed out that deaths were being recorded as Covid simply because the patient had tested positive for Covid. This included even ridiculous examples such as deaths by car accident.

Naturally the pro-hysteria side, with the aid of the “If It Bleeds, It Leads” MSM, ferociously attacked such arguments. For the MSM it’s quite natural that the more death there is the better the story. That’s been true since the days of William Randolph Hearst and his famous “Sob Sisters” over a hundred years ago.

But even the medical “experts” had motive to push death numbers higher, since the more death there was the more likely they could persuade politicians and The People to undertake the extremist controls they advocated. Some of this was obvious with the pandemic models pushed by the likes of Neil Ferguson (“A spherical cow of uniform density in a frictionless vacuum“).

Naturally their counter-attacks against such critics focused on how you should not argue with medical experts, even though medical experts were among the critics of the Covid-death classifications. The motivations of the likes of Ferguson and company were not to be questioned, only those of their dastardly and uncaring opponents.

My, how things change when the motivations run the other way. In this case the criticism around deaths of people who have been vaccinated for Covid-19. Placed under such pressure, no less than the head of American Center for Disease Control (CDC) backs into …. the precise arguments put forward by critics of the Covid death counters.

Walensky is drawing a distinction between those who died directly because they got COVID and those who may have tested positive, but ultimately died of another comorbidity or condition. Now, to most people, that would seem like common sense. After all, why would you count someone with terminal cancer or an already failing heart as a COVID death – just because they had the virus when they died?

Obviously, what Walensky is saying is true. What we’ve known about COVID from early on from those hit the hardest told us that co-morbidities, including heart problems, lung problems, and morbid obesity, are the top factors, and that very old people (70+) naturally suffered more from the first two factors, hence them suffering a higher Covid-19 death rate than other age groups. If someone is otherwise terminally sick, even a mild case of Covid-19 could expedite matters – just as the Flu or Pneumonia normally does. The latter has long been called the “Old People’s Friend” for that very reason.

But the real point I want made clear here is that what Walensky is saying has previously been declared to be completely off-limits for over a year by the powers that be. In fact, it’s the kind of thing that has often gotten right wing-leaning sites in trouble with the social media censors of FaceTwit and company.

Yet, here is the Biden administration saying what was previously labeled as taboo, just because it now fits their narrative, which is driven by the motivation to reduce the death count rather than increase it because the latter would blow up the vaccination programmes. Meanwhile, the media don’t question it, and the social media overlords just shrug.

Oh, and the CDC has recently and rapidly shifted their positions on masks. Because Science.

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  1. And they spout all this execrable crap without the slightest hint of a blush.

    adolffinkensen

    May 17, 2021 at 2:25 pm

    • I know. I know. It’s a mystery to me why someone doesn’t pull Tom Hunter aside and ask him to stop.

      Little Dorrit

      May 17, 2021 at 6:55 pm

  2. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Back to clopping for you, Antifa.

    Tom Hunter

    May 17, 2021 at 7:17 pm

  3. Of course many older people have co morbities. The question is what actually killed them. For instance did the covid precipitate a heart attack in a person with a weak heart?
    This is a far stretch from the urban legend of some one being killed in car crash who had covid. Yes, among the 600,000 who have died in the US you maybe able to find one or two such examples, but they hardly invalidate the general proposition that covid is highly infectious, and least for those over 65 or so has a high mortality rate.

    Wayne

    May 17, 2021 at 7:23 pm

    • Ah! Wayne. You must have these programmed given everything else you ignore.

      Here’s the point of the post that you so much want to ignore, so I’ll write it for you again:

      what Walensky is saying has previously been declared to be completely off-limits for over a year by the powers that be. In fact, it’s the kind of thing that has often gotten right wing-leaning sites in trouble with the social media censors of FaceTwit and company.

      And then there’s this…

      Yes, among the 600,000 who have died in the US you maybe able to find one or two such examples,

      The head of the CDC, with all her credentials, expertise and experience, is arguing some fraction of 223. Maybe we’ll find only one or two examples of what she so badly needs to prove her argument.

      You do the math.

      Tom Hunter

      May 17, 2021 at 7:28 pm

    • High infectiousness doesn’t automatically translate into a high mortality rate.

      Taieri

      May 17, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    • … but they hardly invalidate the general proposition that covid is highly infectious, and least for those over 65 or so has a high mortality rate.

      The cohort of those over 65 in the he population has a high mortality rate Dr Mapp, far higher than the cohort of the population that is under 65

      Nothing new or unusual here.

      We are all mortal – get over it

      Andrei

      May 18, 2021 at 6:05 am


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