No Minister


Many of you will have viewed with some disquiet the lead item on TV1 6.00 news tonight showing hundreds of gang members on motorcycles taking over a public road forcing cars off to the side while they escorted the hearse containing a deceased gang member to his final resting place. This being the second such instance in the past month.

And the police stood back and allowed this to happen. Their hands-off approach is driven by Deputy Commissioner Wally Haumaha who has championed engaging with gangs (on their terms) and by a government who believe the burgeoning gang problems can be solved with hugs and kisses.

So the new norm is grin and bear it because the police won’t intervene. Old time Police Commissioners like Gideon Tait will be spinning in their grave.

New Zealand … the way you’ve got it.

Written by The Veteran

June 18, 2021 at 10:45 pm

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  1. The simple answer is they apply for a road closure just like my business would have to.

    They earn millions in a month from drugs.

    Whats a $150,000 for a road closure. No reason why they shouldnt be stung hard.

    Send them the bill, if its not paid in 7 days, serve notice, 14 days not paid, notice to cease and desist.

    Next funeral, police, armed offenders, and army block the roads, mass arrests, mass fines. In other words a show of force to back up the financial arrangement.

    I am sure a reasonable accommodation around a financial payment can then be reached fo the use of tax payer funded roads for their purpose.


    June 19, 2021 at 8:48 am

  2. Bit of a beat up isn’t it?

    Funeral processions used to be a thing – mourners would follow the hearse from the Church to the cemetery for the burial.

    The protocol in those long distant days, you may recall, was mourners would have their headlights on to identify to other road users they were part of the procession and other road users would give them right of way out of respect – indeed there was a section in the road code covering this not too long ago.

    Pedestrians on the street would stop as the hearse passed by and males wearing head attire would remove it

    Indeed the hearse was a vehicle with custom coachwork so the flower draped coffin could be viewed as it passed by so respects could be paid.

    Now-a-days the hearse is nondescript vehicle that can pass through our thoroughfares as discretely as possible lest people be confronted by the inevitability of their own mortality, I guess


    June 19, 2021 at 9:27 am

  3. Andrei … beat up sure unless you believe in one rule for all.

    The Veteran

    June 19, 2021 at 10:10 am

    • There is no indication in any of the reporting that any law was violated on this occasion.

      Provided the vehicles involved are registered and have a current WOF they are entitled to use the road – the number of them inconvenienced other road users for a short time to be sure, far less than major roadworks would in the scheme of things

      You would have no problem with far larger traffic disruptions for the funeral of a major political or civic leader and that’s an indisputable fact

      Your sense of outrage arises from your disapproval of the deceased’s lifestyle, a disapproval I share, and as he didn’t conform to the social norms of the leafy suburbs and nor do those who came out to pay their respects perhaps you feel the public display of respect unmerited – indeed they may well have done a better job of fare welling their departed brother than is the custom for the majority of Kiwis circa 2021

      “Modern” funerals for the secular in this land, to me seem, somewhat dour, Sitting in regimented rows in a funeral home, closed coffin at the front, singing a hymn, “All things Bright and Beautiful” a perennial favourite, a recording of a popular song that has resonance with the deceased in life played and then a bunch of eulogies before the departed is quietly whisked away as the mourners munch on sandwiches and sausage rolls.

      But in death we all are equal, from the Duke of Edinburgh, who gets an elaborate funeral right down to the homeless man who dies behind a dumpster on a freezing night, who goes unheralded to the crematorium in a Cardboard Coffin


      June 19, 2021 at 11:00 am

    • I am not sure it it is a side effect of the Astra-Zenica, but FFS, I agree with Andrei on most of this. No laws were broken. Respects were paid. During my high school years we lost one to Leukaemia, one to being hit by a car while on his pushbike, and one who survived, but lost both parents in a car crash. For each of those, the entire school some 800+ students, lined the road as the hearse passed by.

      Little Dorrit

      June 19, 2021 at 7:42 pm

  4. I find it quite amusing that our marxist government is all worked up about right wing extremists when gangs are out of control right under their nose.


    June 19, 2021 at 11:10 am

    • Which gang was it who shot up the mosque in ChCh?

      Have any of NZ’s gangs inflicted such trauma so efficiently?

      No, that is the province of the right wing extremist.

      Little Dorrit

      June 19, 2021 at 7:45 pm

  5. Now here is an excellent application for an electric vehicle

    The Tesla Hearse


    June 19, 2021 at 1:04 pm

  6. I reckon it’s less respect for a dead fellow mobster than a seized opportunity to grandstand and mobilise the divisions in one ‘mother’ of a swaggering display of machismo…safety in numbers and intimidation rules these days. Authorities say ‘too much trouble’ to police it. Disruption for dead gangsters…worth it.


    June 19, 2021 at 3:43 pm

    • I think you will find that a fair amount of grandstanding goes on at Royal Funerals, Politicians Funerals, Celebrities funerals and even the funerals for Common Joes

      ‘Tis why some opt for private affairs while others just follow the rubrics from the appropriate liturgical texts, as has been the custom in my family and will be for me when the time comes – that allows no space for any posturing and hypocrisy


      June 19, 2021 at 8:34 pm

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