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I went along to the Hastings gathering last evening along with about 150 like minded people. The demographics of those attending were interesting. I am 75 and there were only 2 or 3 older than me while the majority of attendees were in the 40 to 65 age bracket there were a few early 20’s as well while there were also a few Maori presentl. Only two genders that I could see with men out numbering women about 2 to 1. A mix of farmers, business people and those like myself curious about what David Seymour and ACT had to say.

While the main man was David Seymour he was accompanied by Mark Cameron, Agriculture Spokesman and Damien Smith Economics Spokesman. Both spoke for about 5 minutes each and Cameron was very good while Smith was a little hesitant and his presentation suffered as a result. Interesting that Cameron is the only active Farmer in the current Parliament.

But the star of the evening was David Seymour. He spoke for about 40/45 minutes on a range of matters without notes and never faltered. He had a receptive audience but he never lost them and his mix of hard facts, irreverent humour and the occasional assessment of government performance and performers (or lack of) was well received.

After his presentation he took questions and there were about 10 in total. Unlike our obfuscating, ummm and arrghing Prime Minister he was able to answer every question in a factual and reasonable way. When asked about the likelihood of a snap election I found his answer very revealing – he doubts there will be but if it happens it will be because Labour disintegrates internally. Apparently there are 3 factions in labour – the Parkers, Robertson, Hipkins, Faafoi, – the (so called) Maori Caucus and thirdly a number of new hard line Unionists from the last intake. From the last intake he highlighted Angela Roberts from Taranaki where he is heading next – she is an ex school teacher who advocated removing marketing from the economics curriculum – David proposes to tell Taranaki to keep electing her so that she can not get back into a classroom.

In all a couple of hours well spent and I will be back next time David Seymour is in town.

DISCLOSURE: I am not an ACT Party member or a member of any political party. I have however given ACT my party vote in most elections since 1996.

Written by pdm1946

July 22, 2021 at 9:05 am

Posted in New Zealand

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  1. thats a pretty accurate assessment and aligns with what I saw at a meeting a few months ago


    July 22, 2021 at 9:24 am

  2. I was there too. An informative 80 mins. David’s explanation of why NZ is signed up to the ETS was worth the evening alone. Basically we do it because or trading partners do it and we want to stay on friendly terms. ACT is 100% against the Carbon Zero BS tho.


    July 22, 2021 at 9:43 am

    • Welcome as a commenter DC.


      July 22, 2021 at 10:25 am

    • DC did he have anything to say about the mass conversion of farmland to monocultural pine forests? As a farmer the issues relating to these carbon forests are a major problem, I’m starting to consider the possibility of accepting the inevitable and looking at retiring from farming by planting permanent forest and getting paid to not work (just like much of the Labour voter base). The alternative at the moment is work until I go broke and someone else will plant my farm in carbon forest instead.

      I had ute full of pine prunings with a sign ‘free luch’ at the groundswell event last week. This appears to be where we are going in HB, aiming for aa animal-free farming system (except wild deer, goats and possums!).


      July 22, 2021 at 10:47 am

  3. I wonder how Ian Mckelvie might see the view on farmers in the Parliament.


    July 22, 2021 at 10:12 am

  4. How annoying, I missed it! I wanted to be there too, but forgot. It sounds like a good turn out, and good to hear the audience demographics are fairly wide. Surely Anna Lorck must be a serious aberration for Tukituki voters? Was the local ACT candidate there too?


    July 22, 2021 at 10:42 am

    • Anna Lorck is an airhead and not a nice woman at best. With her and Nash Hawkes Bay is poorly served for electorate MP’s.


      July 22, 2021 at 7:35 pm

  5. Reblogged this on Utopia, you are standing in it!.

    Jim Rose

    July 22, 2021 at 11:36 am

  6. pdm – what is your view on Seymour’s enthusiasm for vaccine passports? For me it ensures that ACT will not get my vote.


    July 22, 2021 at 11:54 am

    • Harry haven’t even thought about it. By coincidence mrspdm and I had our second jabs yesterday afternoon – deferred from 29 june due to no vaccine.

      Other health issues mean we are not candidates for overseas travel anyway.


      July 22, 2021 at 7:34 pm

    • What is a vaccine passport? Haven’t they been aound for years?


      July 22, 2021 at 8:52 pm

  7. pdm – thanks for your reply. Had any negative effects after your shots? Apparently you trust the government and the pharmaceutical industry – a trust I do not share.

    Adolf – covid passports, which I was referring to, are a new thing. See the item on France on this blog.


    July 23, 2021 at 4:37 pm

    • Harry I was a bit `off colour’ yesterday afternoon for an hour or two and mrspdm had a slightly tender arm yesterday morning but nothing to concern us. All ok today.

      We had the jabs on the advice of our GP.


      July 23, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    • Harry

      What’s the difference between a Covid passport and any other vaccination needed for overseas travel?


      July 23, 2021 at 5:58 pm

  8. Adolf the difference between the 2 passports:

    A Covid passport allows you to travel internationally to any country that has suspended rational thought, or that the holder has shown true belief in fairies at the bottom of the garden..

    A Passport allows you to travel anywhere between Kaitaia and Invercargill o Sydney and Perth.


    July 23, 2021 at 7:34 pm

    • Well done, Rossco.


      July 23, 2021 at 9:38 pm

  9. The latest research from the UK and Israel:

    You are wasting your time getting vacinated.

    I quote snippets from the report

    The Israeli data shown above indicates that effectiveness against infection and symptoms decreases rapidly over time and reaches near-zero levels after about half a year. Most likely, this is because covid vaccines do not achieve mucosal immunity (in contrast to natural infection) and serum antibody levels (i.e. antibodies in the blood) decrease within months.

    In the UK, which has primarily used the AstraZeneca DNA adenovector vaccine, the latest estimate by researchers at the University College London indicates an effectiveness against infection of close to 0% and an effectiveness against severe disease of about 60%. In very senior citizens, the effectiveness against severe disease may be even lower (due to a weaker immune response).



    July 24, 2021 at 9:23 am

    • Not only wasting your time – also endangering your health.


      July 24, 2021 at 10:05 am

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