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Double Standards & Changing Narratives

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Just another in an endless list of examples of how the narratives change depending on who is in power and what objectives they’re pursuing.

The focus here being on Australia, which continues its descent into Stasi-world.

Let’s start with stuff in New South Wales, whose State government I have been assured is a “Liberal” one with more of a “hands-off” policy than all those nasty socialists…

… followed by the real McCoy in Socialist Victoria.

Plus a bit of phone app tracking of you in South Australia where you get 15 minutes to prove to the government that you are where you say you are.

Culminating in scenes like this – because even after two burly cops have smashed a 70 year old woman to the ground and broken her hip you still need to pepper spray the fuck out of her. Just to be safe. She might have Covid-19.

It’s entirely predictable where the MSM will sit on this issue. As this compare and contrast does of the Guardian’s approach to two similar events with different bad guys.

Flashback: how “Public Health advocates” felt about protests during lockdowns in 2020 America (same here in NZ incidentally)

Thus, you can guarantee which photo the likes of The Guardian would support below.

It’s almost time to start playing that game Papers Please to get into shape for the questions.

Having had numerous people in the US talking about denying healthcare to unvaccinated folk, don’t be surprised if it also becomes more than talk.

Finally, a timetable for comparison. Readers can pick where New Zealand sits on this chart – and where we’re headed over time.

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  1. Dan Andrews epitomizes all that is wrong with contemporary “centre-left” political parties. He graduated from Monash University in 1995 with a Bachelor Of Arts and since that time he’s only ever worked for the Labor Party or in Government as a Labor Party member.

    But having said that, there’s too many grease-stain lawyers on our team.

    Porky Roebuck

    September 24, 2021 at 9:52 am

    • But those from National/ACT tend to have real life working experience.

      The Veteran

      September 24, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    • But those from National/ACT tend to have real life working experience.


      David Seymour is cut from exactly the same cloth as Jacinda Ardern in reality


      September 24, 2021 at 12:31 pm

  2. Andrei … neither Seymour nor Ardern were lawyers but if you are highlighting the fact that both were political groupies before entering Parliament then I won’t take issue with you.

    The Veteran

    September 24, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    • Exactly Vet

      We live in an age of technocrats and professional politicians, and we live in a world that is on the verge of imploding.

      Look at the way the arable land in this country is being converted from producing wool, dairy and meat into producing “carbon credits” which are about as useless and pointless a commodity as anyone can conceive.

      And while we are babbling about vaccinating as many people as possible against a trivial disease with a vaccine that doesn’t actually work. our third biggest FX earner, Tourism, has totally collapsed and is not about to recover any time soon

      During the first lockdown a major part of Wellington’s Sewerage system failed and the replacement parts had to be fabricated in Germany. Furthermore even though the borders were closed German engineers had to come here to supervise their installation – are you effing kidding me?

      New Zealand has become a nation of airhead chatterers and not a nation of doers

      And if you can’t see the chickens are about to come home to roost you’re in for a very nasty surprise I suspect.


      September 24, 2021 at 1:49 pm

  3. It pains me (not really) to say that I sympathise with with much of what you say (although we will agree to disagree on your descriptive of Covid as a trivial disease and the vaccine not working).

    The Veteran

    September 24, 2021 at 2:20 pm

    • Number of community cases (total): 1,131 (in current community outbreak)
      Number of deaths: 1 – a woman in her 90s


      September 24, 2021 at 3:32 pm

    • Perhaps that new CFR figure – 0.09% – should be plugged into Hendy’s model to see what result it produces.


      For example, the CFR for Australia was 1.8 per cent as of September 3, while for New Zealand it was 0.7 per cent, according to Johns Hopkins University calculations. The ratio for the United States was 1.6 per cent, while in the UK it was 1.9 per cent.

      But of course they’re running with all the Alpha deaths.

      Tom Hunter

      September 24, 2021 at 3:53 pm

    • Well Tom to calculate the CFR you take the total number of deaths and divide it by the total number of cases and multiply by 100

      Herein lies the rub the total number of cases is an unknown because a large percentage of people who have the disease are unaware that they have the disease and hence go undetected and do not factor into the calculation

      In New Zealand during this current outbreak a very large number of worker bees have been deployed to gather nasal swabs from people confined to their residences.

      So we are catching a lot more cases because the powers that be are so intensely focused on the task of tracking them down

      But the more they find the lower the CFR becomes

      Initially of course before this train ran away the only cases known were those people who got sick enough to need hospitalization and thus the CFR produced numbers that looked really scary and could be used to frighten the sheep.


      September 24, 2021 at 4:26 pm

    • Herein lies the rub the total number of cases is an unknown because a large percentage of people who have the disease are unaware…

      I think you might be confusing the IFR (Infection Fatality Rate), which includes such people and is, of necessity, a guesstimate, with CFR (Case Fatality Rate), where we know the numbers who have the virus because of tests or symptoms.

      And of course the Infected number is always greater, usually much greater as with the flu, than the Case number.

      Tom Hunter

      September 24, 2021 at 4:42 pm

    • The argument remains the same Tom regardless


      September 24, 2021 at 5:21 pm

  4. As for all of these Covid “deaths”, it includes those who died “with” it, not necessarily “from” it. The CDC in the US even published that the Covid “deaths” there not attached to serious co-morbidities was only 6% of the total. The WHO even changed the rules of the game mid 2020 so that any suspected or likely Covid infection in a recently deceased patients was counted as a Covid “death”.

    The PCR test will pick up remains of the virus from someone that has already recovered from Covid for many weeks after, or picks up so little active virus the host will never get an infection. The inventor if the PCR test Kary Mullis (yes, I admit he was rather eccentric) was adamant that it is an unreliable method of testing for active infection.

    Until Covid, all cold-like coronaviruses were never listed as the primary cause of death when someone died of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, auto-immune conditions, or any other major co-morbidity.

    The disease was listed as the cause of death, and a confounding factor like flu or pneumonia was listed on a separate line.

    Porky Roebuck

    September 24, 2021 at 4:27 pm

  5. Victoria named lockdown capital of the world with record case numbers. Specifically:

    235 days in lockdown
    756 cases today.

    Tom Hunter

    September 25, 2021 at 10:30 am

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