No Minister

NKVD or Gestapo: which fits better?

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I’m going to add the following two photoshopped pictures to the media library of No Minister where they can be used by other authors here in their posts, since the rest of the NM collective focuses on New Zealand.

But I thought I’d give readers an opportunity to debate which one is the more suitable.

First up is the classic: Der Führer Jacinda.

We all know this one. That armband swastika really jumps out at you and the Nazis are the go-to boogeyman in every fictional TV show and movie that deals with the past century, or connects our present – and sometimes our future – with totalitarian regimes.

But I always feel that this comparison is too easy, even if in our present situation we have a government using the private sector to work its will.

So to our second choice. General Secretary Adern.

Personally this one is my preference simply to balance up the totalitarian comparison game. Admittedly we’re also more into the dreary world of the Stasi than the mass murdering NKVD, given how New Zealand is operating with the use of willing Informeller Mitarbeiters.

I suppose Jacinda in a Mao suit might be even more appropriate, given how we kowtow to the CCP nowadays. I’ll talk to the photoshop artist.

Written by Tom Hunter

October 23, 2021 at 6:38 am

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  1. For me it’s always General Secretary. They’re my faves.

    St Paul

    October 23, 2021 at 6:46 am

  2. Tom … normally (but these arn’t ‘normal’ times) I would call you out for posting this. The PM should be afforded a modicum of respect as the duly elected head of government … the people are right even when they’re wrong and all of that. But I’m not going to because I see our hard fought freedoms being whittled away. Where does it stop? Ardern enjoys unbridled power and she is using that power to transform New Zealand into her vision of a woke socialist paradise with Three Waters and the health reforms the tip of the iceberg.

    Ardern is using Covid in the same way as Hitler used the burning of the Reichstag to pass the ‘Enabling Act’ and if the comparison offends our more prissy readers then so-be-it.

    She is dividing New Zealand in so many ways her wonders to perform.

    For me and I’ll go with the ‘Uncle Joe’ comparison.

    The Veteran

    October 23, 2021 at 10:39 am

    • Well I normally don’t indulge in this sort of stuff either, but vastly less because of “respect” for politicians, of which I have vanishingly little nowadays, than because it’s usually made seriously when I regard it as just a bit of hyperbolic fun.

      In any case, after years of being called a Nazi, together with politicians I’ve supported being called that by their lefty opponents, I have no interest in any of their pearl-clutching about civility and such, nor do I have any interest in being “better than them” in our increasingly nasty, for-keeps dogfights. In this I’m now fully onboard with the Left: I’d rather win than be “better”.

      Tom Hunter

      October 23, 2021 at 10:50 am

      • Tom, I would be hesistant to use photograph’s like that myself, because it comes across as personal abuse and that can turn people off and they won’t read your justification for using the photo.
        I find it is somewhat better to list their actions in a factual way and leave it to the reader to make up their own minds.
        Veteran, As for respect for the position as PM, respect is something you earn and shouldn’t be given unconditionally, otherwise you end up with sycophantic followers, which creates dictators and despots.


        October 23, 2021 at 12:32 pm

    • I am not surprised that Tom justifies the Nazi trope, though I hoped he would be better this. It is not something you do if you purport to be a serious commentator. I also think the comparison damages the reputation of No Minister as a whole, especially when done by an author as opposed to a commenter.

      I don’t mind the Commissar or Mao comparisons. Although millions died under their rule, we nevertheless see Hitler and the Nazis as much worse, because they had a specific goal of exterminating a whole people.


      October 23, 2021 at 12:25 pm

  3. I’d go with useful idiot rather than one of the leaders of this thing that is happening.

    I have been wondering if this has been on the cards for a while, given the international situation, and Ardern has been resisting this. But now she can’t.

    Maybe that’s why we tried the now failed elimination strategy.

    Unfortunately, these sorts of images tend to backfire, as most uninformed people are repelled by them.

    Lucia Maria

    October 23, 2021 at 10:44 am

  4. I’d just like to support the choice of the wonderful St Paul.

    General Secretary General Adern it is.

    St Jude

    October 23, 2021 at 10:48 am

  5. St Paul???? St Jude???

    Different and equally stupid email addreses (fake of course). Same IP address…

    Looks like one of our trolls has returned under new and cleverer disguises. Sir Loin? Glamdring?… The list is endless.

    Not this guy though, the comments are simple and stilted but not the same as Snowflake

    Tom Hunter

    October 23, 2021 at 11:39 am

  6. Paul Scott

    October 23, 2021 at 8:43 pm

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