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Mathematical nonsense

This Herald headline stands out, and not just today, but this message has been repeated for weeks:

Covid 19 Delta outbreak: Gangs may hold key to vaccination success

It didn’t seem right to me, so I checked out a few numbers.

As at September, there were almost 8,000 gang members in New Zealand, We could even say that this number is overstated, as the government is keen to let us know, so let’s say 7,000. If each gang member has 5 more family members in their environs, that’s 35,000 gang members or “associates” who “hold the key” to 90% vaccination “success”.

As at last week, almost 3,000,000 of us had a second Covid dose. We are at 71% of full vaccination from the eligible population, meaning a further 20% or 600,000 people required to be double-vaxxed for us to get to 90%

Even if all of my estimated 35,000 gang members/associates got two jabs, that’s not a drop in the ocean toward the 600,000 required. Even if we double my estimate to 70,000 people, it’s only 11% of the required number.

So no, Gangs do not hold the key. They’re not part of the solution. Never have been, never will be.

Written by Nick K

October 25, 2021 at 6:50 pm

Posted in New Zealand

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  1. Click bait, pure & simple and another attempt at divide and conquer


    October 25, 2021 at 7:24 pm

  2. At least a third of the prison population (3,000) is gang members/associates so they are out of circulation.

    Lindsay Mitchell

    October 25, 2021 at 8:17 pm

  3. Western Australia seems to have the start of a solution to the gang problem. Won’t stop them of course, but will discourage some. And severe punishment for association will make it very difficult for them to operate.


    October 26, 2021 at 5:46 am

    • And severe punishment for association will make it very difficult for them to operate.

      Sadly you just don’t get it.

      Freedom of Association is a fundamental tenet of life in a free society

      And human beings by nature are social creatures who form themselves into groupings of like minded individuals

      Structurally speaking there is little difference between being a member of the Head Hunters Gang or being a member of the Scotts College Old Boys association – the uniform is different, gang patch and jeans v suit and tie but the way it works is almost exactly the same

      Where the major difference lies is the former have little say in how the country is run while the later have a large say and thus organize things to suit their own interests often to the detriment of the later


      October 26, 2021 at 6:31 am

  4. Nick I think you have drawn the wrong conclusion from the headline. Possibly as you dont know the back storey.

    “Gangs may hold key to vaccination success”

    Yes they do hold the key, they will be supplied lists of 5000 people in their Gang Patch area.

    From there they will be given free rein of intimidation, and for each double vaccination they will receive $10,000.

    Acceptable methods, on a rising scale, are killing the non vax pets and hanging them from letterbox, breaking one finger per family member, smashing up the house, burning their books, painting slogans in red on their house walls and footpath.

    The govt will choose one night where all anti vaxxers will have their house windows smashed,, it will be called Krystal Nacht,or Crystal Night.

    If all else fails a dam good beating of the wife and children with baseball bats. Brain damage and broken bones acceptable.

    For further fees the gangs can set up special vaxxing camps, called concentration camps, where anti vaxxers can be concentrated for 4 month periods while dose 1 and 2 are administered and if the the Govt so choses, dose 3 and 4.

    These camps will have signs over their entrance that says ” Vaxxing makes you Free”

    The first camp is to be opened in Northland shortly, followed by West Auckland and then the Waikato.

    See Nick you have to have inside knowledge to get to the real story.


    October 26, 2021 at 8:02 am

  5. or… a season ticket for KFC, but only for the vaxxed?


    October 26, 2021 at 10:58 am

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