Like the author of this article (“Allahpundit”, a truly far-gone TDS sufferer), when I first heard about Russian troops digging trenches in the soil around Chernobyl after capturing the complex I thought it was just propagandistic bullshit from the Ukranians.
After all, the whole world knows about Chernobyl, right? It’s very much a part of my lifetime, and the superb mini-series of the same name in 2019 brought it to the attention of later generations; Millennials and Gen-Z’s like my kids.
Certainly the military and political leaders of Russia would know, and hence would give special instructions to the military units they wanted to take over Chernobyl, right?
Experts scoffed. Yes, they said, Russians (and Ukrainians) in the vicinity would have been exposed to higher than normal levels of radiation as movement in the area kicked radioactive dust up into the air. And yes, if the reports were true that the Russians had spent time in the no-go zone known as the “Red Forest,” then they might expect to walk away with a higher long-term risk of cancer than the average person. But radiation sickness requires a truly massive dose. And besides, why the hell would they be digging trenches in the Red Forest? Surely they’d know better than to surround themselves with Chernobyl’s most toxic soil.
The “Red Forest” is so-called because the trees there turned red and died as the radiation burned them from the inside. They were then bulldozed into the soil, covered with sand, and more trees planted over the top. Apparently the forest got something like 400 times the Hiroshima dosage, which is why no Ukrainians go there.
The link has drone video showing that the Russian soldiers did go there, and dug trenches, and that video matches satellite pictures of the area.

As the Mayor of the nearby town of Slavutych said in an interview (it’s a town built to relocate residents of Pripyat, the now-radioactive town near the reactors):
It’s one thing when you’re [exposed to] external radiation. [When] there’s a source of radiation, you’re exposed, you leave, and then the body copes with it. When you’ve inhaled radioactive dust it’s a completely different story. Today, there’s even a saying that’s caught on here — I’ve adopted it myself: Russian troops left Chernobyl, but Chernobyl will never leave them. They’ve given their own soldiers a kiss of death.
It’s one more insight into the Russian military’s performance in their invasion: troops who don’t know much and just follow orders from leaders who don’t care about them. As one source who works at the plant told Reuters a few weeks ago about his conversation with Russian soldiers occupying the site:
“When they were asked if they knew about the 1986 catastrophe, the explosion of the fourth block (of the Chernobyl plant), they did not have a clue. They had no idea what kind of a facility they were at,” he said, claiming they were merely told that it was “critically important infrastructure.”
While it might seem crazy that young Russians in their twenties wouldn’t have heard of it it’s notable that the 2019 mini-series was not well-received in Russia at the time, with talk of a Russian alternative being made that would pin the blame for the disaster on the CIA. Nothing further has been heard of this series.
But given that mentality it’s entirely possible that such episodes probably aren’t spoken of in history class or on state television. So how would they know?
About the only good news is that the radiation perhaps is not as bad as thought because it’s been observed that wildlife in the area has filled the forest with even a European Bison spotted for the first time in 300 years in the area. Still, those animals don’t dig trenches into the soil.
“It’s one more insight into the Russian military’s performance in their invasion: troops who don’t know much and just follow orders from leaders”
Isn’t that exactly what troops are for?
Following orders that could end in their death or severe injury without question, admittedly in hope that those giving the orders do actually know something.
As an aside; history suggests in most cases those giving the orders didn’t.
Yes, yes, yes we know Russians are stupid thuggish brutes.
I’ll tell you something my friend Russian kids are far, far better educated than their New Zealand counterparts whose heads are filled with utter crap by their teachers.
I’ll tell you something else far more Russian 20 somethings can read English than New Zealand 20 somethings can read Russian or any other major language for that matter
And when they come across total crap like this post they realize two things that the West hates them and that western people are unbelievably stupid – which is clearly true
I mean when you have a serious candidate for the US supreme court who doesn’t know what a woman is or German Government that thinks that Germany can be powered by fucking windmills you clearly are living in a civilization that has completely lost the plot.
Why are you living in a such unenlightened country then Andrei?
New Zealand is or was one of the best places in the world to live Taieri – but it has made New Zealanders smug
And when people grow up with great wealth they assume they are entitled to have whatever they want and they become arrogant
At which point they start to loose it all
I have four kids Taieri and one of the sorrows in my life is they have all left to make their lives elsewhere – they have no affection for this country because there is no soul to it – it made up of a bunch of self absorbed people demanding they be given what they want like spoiled toddlers
Its why our Prime Minister has the demeanor of a kindy teacher
Well said Andrei.
With Russia getting shit dumped on it from the Western world and a clear failure in the original objectives I can understand why you’d be a wee bit sensitive but it isn’t my intention to paint such a portrait.
Put it this way, there are plenty of NZ Army Vietnam vets on this forum who could tell you about how ignorant of the world many of the young US grunts were in Vietnam, knowing little of even where they were in relation to the rest of SE Asia. And that was with a better education system than what the US has now.
How many of them were told not worry about getting drenched in Agent Orange? And didn’t worry.
We’ve long known that much of their senior “management” didn’t really know what the hell they were doing either, but thought they did.
You think the Russian Army is immune to such things? It’s only a couple of weeks since Putin had to pull the Army in when it became public knowledge inside Russia that conscripts were being used in the Ukraine, which was not policy from Putin on down. You think they haven’t screwed up other things?
I’ve also no doubt that Russian kids are better educated than NZ kids, esp in the STEM fields, and can speak English better than we can speak Russian. I assume you think the Reuters source at Chernobyl is just lying, but is the Chernobyl disaster taught in Russian high school history? I don’t see why it wouldn’t be but then Putin has pushed hard to rehabilitate Stalin so perhaps some of the other USSR screwups are also not suitable topics?
Hey, at least they seemed to realise pretty quick and pull the guys out, so there’s that.
LOL – you have absolutely no idea of what the “original objectives” were/are.
Those are things only known to those people in high positions in Russia
To be sure CNN et al can pull retired old US Generals from the dusty cupboards where they reside to provide “expert” commentary but in reality they know fuck all of what the game plan is.
This war has been going on for eight years unnoticed by people like you – it has been escalated now by Ukraine’s true masters (Igor Kolomoisky and Victoria Nuland, Zelensky is just a marionette dancing on their strings ) to sabotage the commissioning of Nord stream 2. And that has been successful for now at the cost of the lives of young Russian and Ukrainian lives, not that these psychopath care
But anybody with brains has seen it coming and Russia has planned accordingly
We will see how far the Neocons will go, right now they are crashing Europe’s economy in their mad scheme to destroy Russia, which is a huge resource rich country which can produce anything it needs, something Europe can’t do
So as I see it the USA is prepared to sacrifice Ukrainian blood and European prosperity in order to enrich Globalist Oligarchs and American politicos
We eagerly await the next installment
Oh I think we have a pretty good idea based on the lines of attack chosen by the Russian Army, starting with trying to take over the Kiev airport while running an armoured column down a highway straight at the city, plus the strategically obvious efforts to create a land bridge to Crimea using those two Russian speaking areas in Eastern Ukraine as a starting point.
No Army then retreats from huge amounts of land gained at such cost in lives and equipment, which is the case around Kiev, simply to “reinforce” other parts of a front – unless it’s having problems getting re-supply and reinforcements. I have no time for this propaganda rubbish that such a retreat means that it’s all going to plan when it was obvious two weeks ago that they were trying to slowly encircle Kiev.
I don’t think you even need to have dusty old US generals to figure that out.
Such analysis has been basic to war analysis forever, plus that interesting little piece of propaganda – “Ukraine has returned to Russia”, published by RIA Novosti precisely at 8am on Feb 28. Rapidly deleted but captured by The WayBack machine it certainly reads like it was expecting the rapid fall of Ukraine, adding to all the observations of the Russian military’s obvious tactics:
Then there’s this:
As I have already pointed out to you several times this claim does not stand up at all in the face of the facts that the Germans rejected Trump’s call several years ago to stop it, plus Biden’s removal of Trump’s sanctions on it as soon as he became President, plus his lobbying just a couple of months ago of his own Democrat Senators to squash GOP attempts to reinstate such sanctions.
Up until the invasion every move that the Germans and Biden made was in support of Nord stream 2. That it is now in jeopardy is down entirely to the stupid missteps of your hero, Putin, whose decision to invade Ukraine has revealed him to be neither so smart nor his military so capable as had been held to be the case – both strategic mistakes in themselves.
Really? Until a few years ago Europe was producing more gas than Russia, with their reductions due to their idiotic pursuit of a Green Utopia of zero fossil fuels.

They also have significant coal reserves should they choose to exploit them, plus nuclear power. The only thing holding them back is their stupidity on Green goals.
Meantime, while it’s true that Russia has all the coal, gas, oil and nuclear it could want, it lacks capabilities in several key modern industries, notably the sort of computer chips needed to make modern machines of all sorts run. Autarky is not possible in today’s complex, inter-connected world and I would not think Russia wants to rely solely on China for these sorts of technologies.
The attack towards Kiev was a feint to allow the battlefield in the South to be shaped – the troops involved in that feint have not been redeployed to the Donbas but have made a strategic withdrawal into Russia and Belarus where they still threaten Kiev and are keeping the forces stationed there pinned down
In case you hadn’t noticed Ukraine has lost all access to the Black Sea where the US Navy has no assets at all having had to withdraw them.
As they say the first casualty of war is the truth and anti Russian propaganda has reached fever pitch
Question: What industry was Zelensky in before politics? Do you recall?
A lot of what you see on TV is filmed on what essentially are film sets .with burned out tanks and vehicles of unknown provenance used as props
Actually Russia is the source of key materials to manufacture these chips, China is a large manufacturer of them and China and Russia are on good terms
Not only that if necessity dictates Russia has the technical know how to build its own chip manufacturing facilities – we are not dealing with a country like New Zealand here where the Universities a churning out graduates in disciplines like Communication or Gender Studies you know.- hell Wellington had to import people from Germany to fix its busted sewerage system about a year ago – thats how far technical skills in this country have declined
Of course I encouraged my kids into STEM subjects which is of course why they were able to get good paying jobs in other climes where they receive far higher renumeration than they would if they remained here
This is the decline of the West writ large
Haha. Now who knows what’s in the minds of the Russian military leadership.
Feint’s are another standard military tactic. But they’re supposed to be fought with minimal force in as defensive a manner as possible so that you don’t lose large parts of your force, which is not what happened around Kiev.
Uh huh! A couple of years ago when I wrote a post about the Venezuelan warship getting sunk by a German cruise liner (Sink the Naiguatá!) I got all sorts of grief from you in the comments about how it was another dastardly CIA plot.
Andrei
You miss the point and the big picture
New Zealanders chose to fail as a nation.
Russians didnt choose to fail, they had it thrust upon them. In fact for well over a 100 years. Putin is only the most recent incarnation.
A GDP no bigger than Australia, GDP per head declined from $18,000 to $13,000 (from memory)
Any Ukrainians, Moldavians, Poles, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Rumania, Lithuania… and even as far away as Germany now realise Russia is not a future they wish to participate in any way shape or form.
Re your resources argument etc about Russia you forget Economics, there are always alternatives, and you need technolgy. The latter was mainly stolen from the West in the cold war.
You also forget that Russia helped win WW2 because of the vast amount of resources transferred from the West, mainly in the form of logistics.
If you read the common Russian soldier accounts of WW2 you realise the utter disdain the leadership had for the common man…..nothing changed there in Russia.
Its good to be a patriot Andrei but it sounds rather like you would rather be there helping subdue the free peoples of Ukraine…jealousy perhaps?
Free peoples of Ukraine = EMPTY SLOGAN
Research these for yourself
Case: Vlodymyr Struk
Mayor of Kreminna
Event: kidnapped & extra judicially killed
Date: 01 March 2022
Accused of: being a traitor and pro-Russian
Ref: New York Post / Daily Mail
Notes: Anton Gerashchenko, Advisor to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, announced on his social media account that the Mayor of Kreminna, Volodymyr Struk, was shot dead by “unknown patriots” after he was kidnapped from his home. He also added that Struk ‘was judged by the court of the people and called hime a traitor.
Case: Denis Kireev
A member of the Ukrainian government negotiating team.
Event: murdered on the street of Kiev, near Pechersky Court building by the SBU security service.
Date: 5 March 2022
Accused of: allegedly for having “pro-Russian position” and ‘ suspicion of treason’.
Ref: Times of Israel / Daily Mail / Kyiv Independent
Notes: gunned down while “resisting arrest”. Reportedly a member of the Ukrainian military intelligence service.
Case: Nestor Shufrych
Verkhovna Rada deputy (Opposition Bloc)
Event: Arrested and kidnapped
Date: 4 March 2022
Accused of: allegedly “providing Russia with intelligence”.
Ref: Reportedly detained by the 206th Territorial Defense Battalion. Photos + video clip of him being intimated and threatened.
Case: Mikhail & Aleksander Kononovich
Leading members of the outlawed Leninist Communist Youth Union of Ukraine.
Event: Arrested and detained by SBU
Date: 6 March 2022
Accused of: “spreading “pro-Russian and pro-Belarusian views.” and ‘treason’.
Ref:
Notes: Currently held in a pretrial detention centre, been beaten and are facing execution on false charges.
Case: Yan Taksyur
Writer and TV journalist / presenter.
Event: Arrested and detained by the SBU.
Date: 10 March 2022
Accused of: ‘treason’
Ref: 70-year-old native of Kiev, an Orthodox journalist and TV presenter, “Pershiy Kozatsky”. Currently in a pre-trial detention centre.
Case: Yuri Tkachev
Scientist and independent journalist
Editor-in-chief of the online magazine https://timer-odessa.net/.
Event: Arrested and detained in Odessa
Date: 19 March 2022
Accused of: ‘ treason’.
Ref: No contact or information on his current status. Wrote just before his arrest: “They came for me, it was a pleasure to talk”.
Case: Dmitri Dzhangirov
TV presenter, political scientist
Member of the “Novyi Sotcialism” (“New Socialism”) party
Event: detained by the SBU (?)
Date: 7 March 2022
Accused of: ?
Ref: According to social media information, “subscribers denounced that an anti-Russian statement was published on his Youtube channel “The Capital”. He was subsequently forced to make a anti-Russian speech on camera and on his YouTube channel as well.
Case: Elena Berezhnaya
Sportswoman / human rights activist
Event: Detained by the SBU (?)
Date: 16 March 2022
Case: Maxim Rindkovsky
MMA fighter
Event: detained, beaten and tortured by ultra-nationalist group
Date: Precise date unknown- 1st week of March 2022
Accused of: having trained with MMA fighters from the Chechen Ahmat club during his sports career.
Ref: Article / Current status is unknown although alleged to have been killed.
Case: Dmitry Skvortsov
Journalist and peace activist of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church
Event: Detained by the SBU
Date: 10 March 2022
Accused of:
Ref: tweet
Case: Mikhail Pogrebinsky
Political scientist
Event: Arrested by the SBU
Date: 27 March 2022
Accused of: treason and illegal enrichment.
Ref: Considered to be pro-Russian as he appeared on Russian TV channels.
Case: Vladimir Ivanov
Left-wing activist
Date: 4th March
Case: Aleksandr Matiushenko
Militant of the Ukrainian left-wing organisation “Livytsia”
Date: 3rd March
Charged with “participation in the aggressive war”.
Ref: Arrested by SBU and ‘Azov’
Case: Oleg Smetanin
Violinist
Date: 4th March
Accused of: passing information about an airport to the Russians.
Case: Vasily Volga
Former leader of the Union of Left Forces,
Date: 7 March
Case: Yury Dudkin
Journalist
Date: 7 March
Case: Aleksandr Karevin
Writer
Date: 7 March
Ref: wrote on his FB page: “The SBU has arrived”
Case: Oleg Pankartiev
Assistant to a deputy of the opposition party “OPZZH (Opposition Platform for Life)
Date: 9 March
Accused of: ?
Ref: Brutally beaten during arrest and is still detained by SBU.
Case: Spartak Golovachiov
Left-wing activist
Date: 11 March
Ref: Managed to write on social media : “They are breaking down my door armed with Ukrainian uniforms. Goodbye.” Whereabouts unknown.
Case: Elena Viacheslavova
Human rights activist
Date: 11 March in Odessa
Detained by SBU
Ref: The daughter of Mikhail Viacheslavov, burned alive on 2 May 2014, in the Odessa House of Trade Unions.
Case: Artiom Khazan
Representative of the Shariy Party
15 March
Detained by the SBU
Ref: He was severely beaten during his arrest by the SBU,
The next day, a video appeared on social networks, in which Khazan slandered the party chairman Anatoli Shariy. Current whereabouts unknown.
Case: Yury Bobchenko
Chairman of the trade union of Ukrainian steelworkers and miners
Date: 19 March
Arrested by Ukrainian military.
Ref: A worker from the Arcelor Mittal Krivoi Rog company.
Case: Gleb Lyashenko
Political scientist and blogger
Date: 29/30 March
Arrested by SBU (?) and charged with treason.
Case: A German
Ex-journalist — Radio Liberty
Case: Oleg Novikov
Opposition Activist
Date: 5 April
Arrested by SBU
Ref: Managed to write on Telegram: “They came for me. Don’t think ill of me. Stay yourself”
Thanks Andrei, appreciate the reply but not the avoidance of the issues I raised.
You are again lost in the detail and using that as transference to support your point.
I dont doubt any of the above happened. So what. Exactly the same is happening on the Russian side of the Ukrainian fence.
Irrespective of that, or the politics of all those countries I mentioned, it does not justify Russia crossing sovereign borders on a pretext as old as Hitler’s.
The other point you cant argue is the people of Ukraine want to fight!
The Russian cannon fodder is being coerced, or deluded with false propaganda. That is simply one of the major reasons why Putin is having his arse kicked, along with about 5 other factors..
Andrei
Would you kindly keep your comments brief?
Its a funny old world isn’t it
A great battle is taking place in the Donbas – the preparations for this battle began in 2014 and now it is approaching its climax
This is just the latest attempt by the West to encroach on the Russian World, a repeat of a war that has lasted over 1000 years – the Latin West, now post Christian against the Orthodox East
Even the English King Henry IV as a young man fought in these lands in an action described as a crusade
The Teutonic Knights, the Poles, the Swedes, the French, the Germans have all been here before and the outcome has always been the same
The outcome of this major battle in the Donbas is in little doubt, hence the hysteria and propaganda blitz
The Veteran is gloating that New Zealand will contribute to the effort – it will at best prolong the conflict, probably not even that.
Most of the Financial aid we provide will end up in the Cypriot Bank accounts of Ukrainian oligarchs as those of us who weren’t born yesterday know
And the shareholders in American arms manufacturers will receive big dividends, blood money earned from spilling the blood of young Slavic males
The small arms flooding into Ukraine which are not destroyed will end up in the hands of Neo Nazi groups in Europe which will proliferate as Europe’s economy is destroyed fighting a war of economic attrition
And famine will stalk the third world
It is all very depressing but what can we do?
“It is all very depressing but what can we do?”
There is nothing we can do and nothing we could do once the lunatic bloodthirsty tyrant decided to attack a sovereign nation.
I know you have on hand all the excuses under the sun and justifications for the retards actions, so go ahead.
There is nothing that can justify this repulsive tyrants behavior.
Anyway why are you still commenting here, didn’t you recently express your contempt and disgust for the contributors and commenters on this blog.
Just asking.
I’m happy you are still commenting as it’s entertaining reading your trying to justify that which cannot be justified.