“I can tell you 30 percent of the business owners who call me are asking how to get a gun licence. It’s become that serious because if the police and authorities are not able to save them they have to save themselves.”
Only 30%? Well, it’s New Zealand. BTW I have bad news for those people, who clearly don’t know anything about guns or gun licences: during your oral interview by the Police you will be asked why you want to own a gun and if your answer is that you want one to defend yourself, your family & friends or your business, that’s an automatic fail.
As an example of what free man can do to fix a corrupt, lawless system I also doubt we’ll be doing what San Franciscans did in 1856 to deal with corruption and crime. The elections were totally corrupt and the laws and their enforcement followed from that, with business bankrupted by laws and then conveniently taken over by businessmen who were cronies of the lawmakers. But it got worse:
About the same time a gambler, Charles Cora, shot and killed a well-known and well-liked US Marshal named William Richardson who was unarmed at the time. This was an unprovoked, cold-blooded shooting. Conviction seemed almost certain, although Cora was a good friend – a very good friend of both the local sheriff and the keeper of the jail, where he waited trial in considerable luxury and comfort. No expense was spared in Cora’s defense – and when the case came to trial, the jury couldn’t come to a decision and Cora was released. The law-abiding element in town seethed.
One key difference was that there was a newspaper editor who actually crusaded against all this stuff: James King and his Daily Evening Bulletin “pulled no punches; he named names, explained methods and connections.” One of his targets was one James Casey, on the board of county supervisors – and a member in good standing of the Establishment of the day.
And that got King killed:
After some hours drinking and fuming, Casey left the bar and waited just across the street for King to pass on his way home. At about 5 PM, King left the newspaper office, and as he passed by on his way home, Casey shot him. King fell, mortally wounded – while Casey’s friends hustled him off to safety in a nearby police station lock-up.
A “mob” turned up at the police station and although not dissuaded by a spiel from the Mayor of San Francisco they were by the armed marshals and armed soldiers who came with him. No doubt TPTB felt they’d won another round and were on their way to a Cora-style legal victory. It was then they discovered the limits of their power over ordinary people:
Several days later, a small advertisement appeared on the front pages of several morning papers: “The members of the Vigilance Committee in good standing will please meet at number 105 ½ Sacramento Street, this day, Thursday, fifteenth instant, at nine o’clock A.M. By order of the Committee of Thirteen.”
The effect on the general public was electrifying. Crowds descended on the building at the designated address
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They were organized, they were in earnest, they would not compromise … and they would not back down. And they proved to be very, very efficient. Immediate support for the Committee was overwhelming.
People stood in line for an entire day to join. Within days they had 6000 members and they were organised into military-style “companies”. By this time TPTB, who actually had the gall to call themselves “The Law and Order Party” were rattled enough that they called on the Governor of California to get involved, along with the state militia. Hustled into town to meet the head of the Vigilance Committee, the wonderfully named Will Tell Coleman, the Governor got the polite, but firm message that while the Committee proposed no insurrection against civil authority they were going to see that the established laws were enforced. The Governor was apparently mollified – without asking exactly what “enforced” meant. Casey found out the next morning when a military-style operation removed him from the jail:
… a column of marching men – in civilian clothes, but carrying rifles with fixed bayonets appeared at the end of a street which emptied into the square – then another column, from another converging street. Then a third column, joined by a fourth: they marched into the square and took their places in regular ranks four-deep all around the square.
Even that description doesn’t fully describe what “military” meant:
From out of a side street came a body of sixty men – drawing a field gun by means of a long rope. The cannon was wheeled into the middle of the square, aimed at the front door of the jail. Slowly and deliberately, it was charged with powder and shot, while another man lit a slow-burning match and stood at attention.
Cora was added to the bag later and both men were put in front of a court, complete with defense lawyers. None of the witnesses they called turned up, while there were eye-witnesses aplenty to testify to the murders that both men had committed. They were convicted and hung as the church bells tolled for King’s funeral.
The Committee did not disband immediately, for they formed a list:
Those on it would either leave, or be charged and tried under the ordinary rules of law. Only two more miscreants were hanged, and thirty banished officially, although it was estimated that at least eight hundred left town voluntarily. The Committee formally dissolved in August of that year
Of course they would be described as a vigilante group, even though they were at pains to follow the law, but it’s an example of what can happen when the normal functions of government and law enforcement are corrupted beyond the repair normally provided by elections.
No Minister 
It saddens me to say this, but, if New Zealanders can overcome their apathy, I can see that happening here too.
The Wellington protest, with the governments response to people they had mandated out of a job was a start. The complete police overreaction should give people pause.
Then there’s the whole two standards of citizenship that has split the country.
If people found out just how corrupt the media is we’ll have riots in the streets. But there is worse to come out. A friend of my wife got up at the recent counterspin event in a Taupo and absolutely shocked me, when I thought things couldn’t get worse, they already were. The police came and arrested her husband on 8 December. She hasn’t seen him since. They also ransacked their house and took all their computers and devices away.
His crime? Asking questions about the vaccine. I kid you not. If you want corruption and police state, here it is. Watch her tell it in her own words: https://counterspinmedia.com/blog/resources-videos/lets-not-forget-tour-stop-13-taupo-waikato-19-may-2022/
Marta starts at 1:04:00
Paranormal … are you really serious? Have to believe you are. Husband arrested six months ago and never seen since … what does his lawyer have to say about this? There has to be a back-story to all of this. Lets see it.
Graham didn’t have a great lawyer, and he and his partner are probably short of money due to the mandates in any event. There is a link already supplied in Paranormals comment.
It’s not uncommon these days for the police to shut people down they dont agree with -ask Brian Tamaki and most of the MC’s at the early protests.
P.S. now you know why that Wellington protest with 30% support from the public didn’t have a visible leader.
Absolutely serious Vet. Your reaction is the same as my initial reaction. This sort of shit just doesn’t happen here. But yes it does.
The link goes to Marta telling the story. Watch it and weep, not only for Marta, but for our democracy as well.
Counterspin have now organised her a lawyer and they’re working on it. I believe there is also a Facebook page set up for Marta where there is more information. I’m not on Facebook so haven’t seen it.
Paranormal,
I don’t buy it. That is, the implication that the husband was arrested six months ago to literarily disappear into a black site akin to Guantanamo.
That simply doesn’t happen in New Zealand.
If the husband has disappeared, it will be because the husband decided to leave his former life after he had been arrested and released.
Seriously?
You nailed it. There has to be a back story to this and so far we have only heard one side of it.
Watch the clip Wayne. That is not what has happened. He is being held in a prison where she can’t visit.
It is you and Vet who are symptomatic of the problem. We have major issues with our democracy and you two have your fingers in your ears. There is no way he should have been arrested for questioning the vaccine.
Wayne, what evidence do you need to see to understand what has happened to Marta’s husband is wrong. If you then get the evidence, what would you do about it?
Paranormal,
So he is in prison. Therefore he was arrested, and appeared in court. He is either on remand in custody, which only occurs for serious violent or serious drug crimes. Or he has been convicted, and sentenced to a custodial sentence. Again that only occurs for serious crimes. Certainly not for protesting, even if it involves a bit of biff.
In NZ prisons, offenders have guaranteed visiting rights, but of course an offender can rule out particular people from visiting.
If you are serious about this, you need to provide more information. Actually state in your comment what has happened.
Unlike you, I have confidence in our justice system, particularly the procedural process that has to occur, and in fact is part of the guarantee of our basic rights. In my very first criminal law lecture, now 50 years, my lecturer, Dr Bill Hodge said the process of arrest is one of our fundamental rights. Because someone who has been arrested has to be bought before an independent court, and they have an absolute right of representation. No so in a police state.
If you have serious concerns, you can make a formal complaint to the Ombudsman, who is also the Inspector of Prisons.
Wayne – watch the clip. The only serious thing he did was question the vaccine in person and on line. There is no way he should have been arrested or had all their computers and devices taken.
Paranormal,
Well, I did watch about 15 minutes of the interview. Lots of missing facts.
What was he actually arrested for? Although Marta says it was for wearing a snorkel, it clearly was not for that. No-one gets arrested for wearing a snorkel, there must be a much more serious offence involved.
He apparently is on remand, because she said he can’t get bail. Why can’t he get bail? The only people who don’t get bail are people charged with very serious offences.
What happened at his various court appearances? These would mostly be done by AV when it comes to bail issues.
She can’t visit him, because she is not vaccinated. Presumably that is all about to change, since vaccination requirements have basically disappeared.
Do you know more than what is being said in your post or on the video, because there clearly is more to this story than the content of the video.
Paranormal … it appears to me that you have your ears and eyes shut to the point where you only want to believe what you want to believe. WM has nailed it with his response … but I guess any real conspiracy theorist of the Counterspin variety never lets the facts get in the way of a good story.
You are correct Vet, I do not have all the details, however I do know the man. Don’t you think it is at least interesting that a peaceful man, whose only crime is asking questions of the vax, has been kept in prison when as WM says that’s only for serious crimes?
I understand Counterspin have organised a lawyer for him and things are progressing. There is a Facebook page that goes into the details. There is a lot here that is wrong. That you’re not asking questions of them says a lot.
paranormal. You are being taken seriously here but as Wayne said there is missing context. I suggest you follow up directly with Marta and get some basic facts. If he is in jail for six months there must be some additional reasons that are not being shared. I find it entirely believable that NZ has the same issue as the J6 defendants in USA. They are not being treated like normal people because of beliefs and unwillingness to compromise with acceptable views. Wayne and Vet are partly right but we need more information than a speech buried in the middle of an hour long video.