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I see that pesky thing called Covid which a number of commentators on this blog have called a scam just won’t go away with 8,028 cases reported today with the seven day rolling average up over 600. 16 deaths and 383 in hospital with 7 in ICU or high dependency units.

Pretty effective scam.

Try telling that to those who have contracted the virus.

Written by The Veteran

June 28, 2022 at 5:15 pm

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  1. I can’t speak for others but I always held the response of governments around the world to the C-19 pandemic to be the scam, rather than the disease itself.

    An argument and label that grows more accurate with every passing day of cases and deaths that are steadily ticking us up towards levels we once claimed would be horrifying and fully justifying our extremist methods.

    Lockdowns (not in the MOH Flu Plan)
    Social Distancing (not in the MOH Flu Plan)
    Mask mandates (not in the MOH Flu Plan)
    Vaccine mandates (not in the MOH Flu Plan)

    The best that supporters of these can claim is that we’re not as bad as many foreign nations – including ones that also did all these things and still got screwed, as we are now being screwed.

    The fact that we’re still under this stupid “Orange” setting when it’s clearly also not doing a bloody thing to slow down, let alone stop, this stage of the pandemic, is almost the dictionary definition of “scam”

    Oh, and a 92 year close friend of mine caught it a couple of weeks ago and described it as the sickest he’s ever been, though he’s now recovering. This despite living in a very locked down retirement home and with all his vaccinations. He told me they still have no idea how the virus got through all their defences.

    But sure, enacting the same measures across our whole society is not a scam. In fact your headline is completely appropriate; this “scam” is certainly not going away – it’s just not the scam you think it is.

    Tom Hunter

    June 28, 2022 at 5:24 pm

    • ‘He told me they still have no idea how the virus got through all their defences.’

      Well, I have been trying to patiently tell people these past two years that the vaccines are (if anything at all as big pharma like selling nothing for something) neuro-toxic.

      The scam is many things including vaccines being of any use whatsoever, although I did once think they were of some help.

      Covid 19 is the ‘flu made out to be a monster and does not go away as it is primarily vitamin D deficiency and the true pandemic due to indoor working and living away from the sunshine which, if we do the right thing things, will give us vitamin D (free!). Big pharma etc. are not keen on free as they don’t make much money out of it.

      The ‘flu will not go away but if understood correctly can be dealt with at source, the individual’s own body. Easy really when you know why which at last I did in 2020 at 60 years of age. I am a bit slow but I got there eventually.


      July 4, 2022 at 3:43 am

  2. Vet. That’s what viruses do. They infest people. The scammers are all those socialist politicians who grabbed enormous power off the back of fudged data, ridiculous predictions and incompetent advisers.


    June 28, 2022 at 6:00 pm

  3. I haven’t read any comments on this blog saying that the disease doesn’t exist but rather a number which criticise the treatment and/or the NZ Government’s actions. The disease is real. Some of the restrictions eg open a dairy but not the butcher next door, were daft.


    June 28, 2022 at 6:29 pm

    • The disease is the ‘flu re-branded so serious enough if one does not understand what to do with it. And made worse if one has neuro-toxins injected in on top of all the other toxins already there.

      Most politicians are dim or very dim. They can’t help it, most of them can’t find anything better to do. Mind you the clever ones can make lost of money from it at taxpayers expense. Get them to pay it all back. And how about a chain chain and making them fill pot holes in the roads.


      July 4, 2022 at 3:49 am

  4. Sorry Vet you seem to have misunderstood the thrust of the intent of the word scam.

    My apologies but I did not realise I had to spell it out.

    No one denys there is a virus, I have had it, unvaxed, and my wife has had it, 2 x Vaxxed. We had the same symptoms and the same duration, effectively 3 weeks.

    I have had worse flu’s in my life.

    The scam is of course around the vaccines. I hope i dont have to spell that out, as most readers here understand that link, as would those forced against their will to take it to preserve their jobs.


    June 28, 2022 at 6:30 pm

  5. Covid has a survival rate of 99.4% if you’re an old codger, those odds improve the younger you are.

    My entire family contracted the disease, the youngest unvaccinated one was climbing the walls in two days, the rest of us, double vaxed recovered in three.

    I’ve had worse flu, and worse Chemo.


    June 28, 2022 at 6:57 pm

    • I had immuno-therapy which has added to my symptoms. Another scam like cancer, which is real but principally toxic poisoning from many poisons in the environments and food etc.

      My diagnosis was fundamentally flawed. i am not very pleased with the NHS to put it very mildly.

      Big pharma like cancer as this makes good business and a nice supply of clients. If some die, well, that’s just to the greater good.

      Of making money for big pharma of course, as others are scared ridged and do silly things and buy big pharma drugs.


      July 4, 2022 at 3:56 am

  6. Bit like one commenter here who flings Denier around whenever someone suggests the “SCAM” that the slow warming of some recent times is somehow related to burning fossil fuels, when my education both legislated and freedom of choice has consistently given solar radiation as a main contributor with cloud cover, atmospheric detritus from volcanoes, earths orientation and other minimal effects in the minor column, but of course unable to be taxed by way of extractions from the productive sector.
    There were some serious scams involved around states responses that are being very difficult to ascertain any evidence of.
    The origins of the virus, laboratory, pangolins, bats?
    Labelling an mRNA experimental medical intervention as a Vaccine when its main claimed function is in mitigating the worst outcomes for the life threats, It does not prevent infection by having a stabbed person any more or less susceptible to infection, does not seem to have much dampening effects in actual severity for the infected and is now being questioned as to a role in the reinfection stats.
    Masks were often claimed to be useless, then absolutely essential in preventing spread, then when many poor fitting and often totally misfitting over many and varied faces, in particular bearded males, now seemingly needing to be upgraded well beyond the scant and porous material efforts of earlier times to a more expensive model.
    Social distancing taken to some outstanding measures around the out doors and the many who alone in a private car travel motorways masked.
    The destruction of the billion dollar annual income from tourism and hospitality business.
    Total idiocy that had people “disinfecting” vegetables fruit and other grocery items after transporting home.
    The even more tricky orders around who could sell what when and where. ( I would back my preferred Meat vendor from his shop anytime over a gumboot wearing lank haired tattooed meat cutter at a supermarket)
    Then the really biggy, what was agreed to in the supply contract from Pfizer that from some hints and outcomes seem to have been quite influential and dodgy in the roll outs, the medical responses involved in the long held sacrosanct Dr / Patient relationship.
    My body My decisions My Choice all buried under proclamations from the Podium now being turned around entirely in moving from mandated assaults using an experimental medical intervention, to an unrelated decision from a supreme court long distant and of zero political connection of abortion rights.
    Yep Vet there are scams aplenty but we may never discover the range and extent of any, let alone approximations of the total list involved.
    The actual tricky (Very) Virus is no scam but its many and varied manipulations an even more emphatic yes.


    June 28, 2022 at 7:37 pm

    • 200 Upticks GD.

      Summarises the whole thing in your eloquent manner that no other contributor can match 🙂


      June 28, 2022 at 8:07 pm

    • Very true. Sad to say the Covid 19 scam is merely the tip of a ginormous big pharma ice berg. They say 10% of an iceberg is visible above the water line. In big pharma’s case I think that percentage is much lower.


      July 4, 2022 at 4:00 am

  7. Well done deniers … tell my second cousin that (although you would have to did him up to tell him so) … never been sick in his life … club rugby premier team.

    And you guys sux big time

    The Veteran

    June 28, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    • Condolences re your second cousin.

      But the annual flu does the same – takes people who’ve never been sick in their life.

      We don’t shut down the world’s economy for the flu virus when ever a new strain appears, or traumatise a whole cohort of under 5’s by forcing them to wear masks while learning social interaction skills of which so much is triggered by facial expressions, or stop countless medical tests and check ups for various cancers, heart and breathing ailments. I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

      The key problem with the whole handling of this, on a historical scale, minor pandemic has been the blatant lying about source, schematic incitement of fear to drive social control, lying about safe measures like masks and hand washing, lying about the vaccines safety and efficacy and the complete lack of trade off analysis that repeated lock downs caused.

      Random virus kill people randomly at times and completely baffle the medical profession. Shit happens – get healthy, take reasonable precautions particular if your aged or infirm – but get on with life its too short to live in constant fear of such a small risk factor as COVID 19

      Nice provocation with the deniers tag as well Veteran – well played….


      June 29, 2022 at 8:04 am

      • The mainstream medical profession know b****r all about disease. I trusted them to a fair degree until I started researching and realised this was the the case.

        They get precious little training in nutrition (4 hours my wife tells me), yet we are what we eat. Eat and drink poisonous things and we get sick. Much of our food is processed to death, many drinks etc. contain artificial sweeteners which are neuro-toxic.

        The virus is not random, merely the ‘flu, the internal toxicosis of the body, mainly via urea, partly due to metabolism of food and partly due to the many poisons in our environment which can and do enter our bodies in the air, food and water. The ‘flu cannot be transmitted to someone else as it is individual to each person.

        Unless your blood is given to someone in a blood transfusion, for example.

        In essence urea is a neuro-toxin due to the nitrogen which the body may use up to a point but must ultimately excrete as it is from ammonia which is highly toxic.

        Injecting poisons such as via vaccines merely adds to the toxicosis problem. Vaccines have never been of any use, it is merely that constant and persistent ‘advertising’ persuaded people that they were of use. The various deaths and harm have been well-documented over the decades. It is being documented now.

        Vitamin D deficiency is the true pandemic due to indoor working and living away from the sunshine which, if we do the right thing things, will give us vitamin D (free!). Big pharma etc. are not keen on free as they don’t make much money out of it.

        Vitamin D levels drop in the winter months, depending on latitude, due to reduced sunshine levels and as any gains in the summer months are depleted.

        All fairly straightforward.


        July 4, 2022 at 4:08 am

  8. From this….

    to this…
    Auckland, Wellington plummet in livable city ratings

    The 2022 Global Liveability Index, by the Economist Intelligence Unit, ranked cities around the world on factors including health care, crime rates, political stability, infrastructure and access to green space.

    It ranked Auckland 34th out of 173, a considerable drop from second in 2021. …

    Wellington also experienced a notable drop, falling to 50th from fourth in 2021.

    Tom Hunter

    June 28, 2022 at 8:41 pm

  9. No one is saying Covid is a scam really. The over reaction to it was. The statistics you quote are very misleading. The government mislead by using “died with covid” They could easily use the same criteria with the flu and get a similar result. I had covid and it was like a mild flu and over it in 3 days.
    Two of my friends have had covid and over it in 3 days and said it was like a mild flu. They both have the latest flu and are into their second week and still very ill.
    Sure it sux to get covid but was it necessary to lock the country down and destroy the economy and peoples businesses and incomes for a virus with such a high recovery rate. And leave our kids and grand kids with a horrendous debt. All the politicians may have saved granny but they have killed the economy and peoples future.
    I won’t even start on an ineffective vaccine that was forced onto unwilling people. Just about everyone I know have had covid with no major problems. In fact the ones I know who are not vaxxed have handled it better. Anecdotal I know but none the less true.
    Vet you have my deepest sympathy for your loss.

    Old Curnudgeon

    June 28, 2022 at 9:02 pm

  10. “Eradicate and Eliminate” (Alpha) was a scam, your facts today prove it. “Aggressively stamp out the virus” (Delta) was a scam, your facts today prove it. “Slowing the spread” (Omicron) was a scam, your facts today prove it. “Taking the vaccine is the best way to stop you or your tamariki from getting really sick from the virus (current radio ad) is a scam . Vet, turn your brain on and take the blue pill and go down the hole that Neo went down in The Matrix.

    You appear to have developed mass formation psychosis that Mattias Desmet describes so well. Me? Well I have found a whole new lease of life not participating in the scam. I have never worn a mask, not even on my recent plane rides. I just refuse, and no one forces the issue. I don’t play “their” game. I’ve also joined Voices for Freedom and hang out with like-minded critical thinkers who enrich my life. I don’t read the MSM, and don’t believe anything any politician tells me. Believe me, it’s liberating.

    You’ve put this post up and not one comment in support. You’ve been part of the Establishment far too long. The Establishment is the problem. It needs to be brought down.

    Nick K

    June 28, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    • A UK doctor. Lots of commonsense facts to be read on his site.
      Not just on covid but random medical.


      June 29, 2022 at 9:11 am

      • His articles a very brief, Kev, seems more like a vehicle to promote his books. And everyone is out of step but him!


        June 29, 2022 at 11:14 am

      • Assuming you refer to Vernon Coleman, not everyone, only those who don’t think critically.


        July 4, 2022 at 4:13 am

      • Vernon Colman is a good man and very brave in my books.


        July 4, 2022 at 4:11 am

    • NK … ain’t hindsight great and of course there were things that the government didn’t get right and they have been well canvassed. You are of course are entitled to your opinions as I am to mine and it doesn’t bother me one iota that on this blog I appear to be out of step with a number of commentators … but your last comment is interesting … never saw you as an anarchist although they do come in various shapes and sizes … collectivist anarchism;
      anarcho-communism; philosophical anarchism and egoist anarchism … your choice I guess.

      The Veteran

      June 29, 2022 at 4:32 pm

    • Spot on. I write lots on my site about all this. Covid 19 summary my main link.


      July 4, 2022 at 4:10 am

  11. Your and my choice to just view his comments Cass. What do you not agree with? He just happens to have the analytical skill, astuteness and commitment to put data up.
    There is enough content on his site to not need the books. Plenty of links as well.
    Vernon Coleman v/s Pfizer/arden?


    June 29, 2022 at 2:30 pm

    • The very brief articles which seem to mainly promote his books. I didn’t see any erudite columns, just a whole lot of it unsubstantiated claims. Some of which are correct!


      June 30, 2022 at 11:43 am

  12. Well done Vet. That rattled their cosy little echo chamber. You’ll never change their thinking though. They come here knowing deep within themselves that they’re wrong but ;looking for and finding the reinforcement that they crave.
    That other blog is amazing, no matter what the subject, one of the pathetics has to turn it into an “I’ve researched this about covid” session. I read it because it’s so funny.


    June 29, 2022 at 7:50 pm

    • Who’s in an echo chamber?
      Projection much I think hardiemartin.

      I have no idea who is right and who is wrong. At least I don’t have tunnel vision. You have obviously made your mind and nothing will change it. Which is exactly what you are accusing others of.
      I see Vet has his opinion and that’s very fine but don’t begrudge others their opinion.

      My only hard and fast position on this is that it’s wrong to force medical procedures on unwilling people. That is a very slippery slope.

      Old Curmudgeon

      June 29, 2022 at 11:01 pm

  13. The site’s title should be “no brain-carrier” instead of “no minister”

    So I don’t expect much by writing the following, of course…

    Mr No Brain Minister hasn’t learned yet to look below the surface when it comes to politics.

    IF you DO really look this is what you find…

    That a mafia network of manipulating PSYCHOPATHS are governing big businesses (eg official medicine), nations and the world — the evidence is OVERWHELMING and TOTALLY IRREFUTABLE (see “The 2 Married Pink Elephants In The Historical Room”… ).

    Once you see that it’s obvious and logical and predictable that Covid is One Giant Planned Crime Against Humanity (see cited source).

    WHEN, if at all, will you decide to wake up from your coma of ignorance?


    June 30, 2022 at 3:37 pm

  14. Hello

    The thing is that the scam is that Covid 19 is anything more than the ‘flu made out to be a monster by persistent advertising. It was re-branded in 2020 to make more money as always for big pharma etc.

    The ‘flu is the internal toxicosis of the body, mainly via urea, partly due to metabolism of food and partly due to the many poisons in our environment which can and do enter our bodies in the air, food and water. The ‘flu cannot be transmitted to someone else as it is individual to each person.

    Unless your blood is given to someone in a blood transfusion, for example.

    As a consequence vaccines are pointless if not harmful or even deadly depending on your immune system’s status.

    If people lose their marbles and let others inject neuro-toxic ingredients into their bodies then ‘flu cases will rise. It is not rocket science, but big pharma like the masses to think otherwise as they can pretend they are much wiser and better than the masses, as opposed to the con men they are.

    Thus it ever was. I explain further on my site.

    Kind regards


    July 4, 2022 at 3:36 am

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