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2000 dead

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“So, uh, yeah, just going to leave this here, then

So it was said a long two years ago.

Together with this gloating Tweet from some Jacinda worshiper at the time.

Today’s numbers.

And of course the people dying now are exactly the same sort of people we knew in January 2020 that this thing targeted:

Six were in their 70s, five were in their 80s and five were aged over 90.

As it has been for months now. It’s almost as if General Tso’s Sickness is merely a substitute for the normal 500-700 flu deaths we get annually, plus those who die from pneumonia, otherwise known as “Old People’s Friend”. The suppression of such deaths in 2020 and 2021 is likely also feeding these current numbers, as is often seen with excess mortality from year to year around the world.

Gee, I guess that since we’ve maxed out on the lockdown strategy – simply because we’re so broken and exhausted by the previous ones – social distancing is gone, and since it’s hard to see how we could force our already “world class” vaccine rates any higher, I guess it’s back to masks, masks, and more masks, especially for school children – right Professor Baker?

And as I predicted in October, 2021…

We’ve already noticed that, as the bad news of rising cases began to turn up, Jacinda and her team were quick to pull her from the daily Podium Of Truth, leaving it to her minions to deliver the news… At some point soon I suspect that Adern and company will not even bother talking about the vaccination rate, and if questions about either it or case numbers are mentioned, they’ll just waffle around them…To do otherwise would be to take numbers that have been useful to the government so far – case numbers and vax rates – and watch them be steadily turned against the government…

… is this news from the MOH:

…the ministry can now start reporting on people hospitalised where the main reason they’re in hospital is due to Covid-19 or with Covid-19 as a contributor.

They will be making a similar change to deaths reporting, away from all people who have died within 28 days of a Covid-19 infection to people who have died because of a Covid-19 infection or where it was a contributing factor.

Which will automatically drop the numbers from the ones quoted in the RNZ reports, although they may stick to the numbers counted under the original definition. You’ll also note that this daily news item is no longer top-of-page material but buried much farther down in scrolling or even having to be searched for, which fits with both it becoming “boring” background news, and also not hurting their precious Labour government.

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  1. “yip, yip… that is what it is.”


    July 25, 2022 at 3:53 pm

  2. Hang on a minute, mate!

    Did those 2,000 die ‘of’ covid or ‘with’ covid’?

    This whole covid schtick is riddled with bullshit. Just like the climate change religion.


    July 25, 2022 at 3:58 pm

    • With covid, as per the WHO standard that has been applied around the world, hence my reference to it now being changed to get a better handle on “of Covid”, as has been argued from the start by opponents of this entire thing.

      Of course having successfully used it to scare the living shit out of the public, and then boasting about getting to zero on that basis, I now want them to continue with their stupid measurement, on the sound assumption that those who live by the sword should die by it.

      Tom Hunter

      July 25, 2022 at 4:39 pm

      • So it’s quite likely less than 50 died from covid over two years. And for that they destroyed the economy?


        July 25, 2022 at 4:55 pm

      • Yes, about 50 have actually died OF covid.
        I kept the stats on this until they changed the definition of a covid death to include anyone within 28 days of catching covid in March 2022.
        There were 68 deaths in NZ WITH covid up until March.
        Approximately 3-12% of these would have died OF covid, going by what the UK & Italian health discovered in their own countries.


        July 25, 2022 at 5:18 pm

  3. Yet the radio ads continue in pidgin English encouraging us to get boosted and jab the youngsters for no discernable benefit.

    (As an aside, the current ads are slightly less pidgin than they were a month or so ago, I wonder why.)

    it’s pitiful really, masks is all they have left.

    Ironically they could have taken the opportunity to introduce programs to tackle obesity and nutrition, but I suppose that’s not nearly as sexy as making children wear masks over summer.


    July 26, 2022 at 7:48 am

  4. Even though I put the original link into my post it was not until last night that I looked at the old comments from two years ago. Three in particular stuck out:

    That’s just cruel, Psycho. After all Tom, Vet and Adolt have been through already. They’ve had to defend the near criminal incompetence of Trump, Johnson and Bolsonaro while attempting to undermine our response. Now we’re fully out of restrictions ahead of all of them and all you can do is rub their noses in it. Shame.

    The alternative “let it burn” approach would have seen thousands of deaths and economic carnage. Or would you have preferred the bumbling incompetence of the macho men Trump, Johnson and Bolsonaro?

    Mappa Mundi
    The words of the all knowing Tom forever cast in stone.”Anyone who thinks they can eliminate the virus is clearly insane” Nuff said.

    I don’t know where I said that last one but all I was probably doing was quoting epidemiologists – foreign ones likely, but sure, I’ll say it again:

    ”Anyone who thinks they can eliminate the virus is clearly insane

    Tom Hunter

    July 26, 2022 at 9:43 am

  5. Also this from DPF, Fewer than 1 in 2 kids regularly attending school!, including this from one commentator:

    I have watched my teenager, whose NCEA years are 2020 2021 and 2022, go from loving school to taking every opportunity to bunk off aided by her school “working from home” on a regular basis. If this can happen to a motivated kid with supportive parents what do you think is happening to the kids without her advantages?

    We should look back on these last 3 years and hang our heads in shame because we have failed these kids in so many ways, not least of which was making them shoulder the load for a disease that affects mainly the elderly. Adults should be protecting the next generation not offering them up for sacrifice that is what primitive societies do not enlightened ones.

    And even in the face of this the mask demands for kids are back.

    Tom Hunter

    July 26, 2022 at 10:02 am

  6. There’s a new book out called: Jacinda Ardern, Leading with Empathy. Not a joke.

    Now triggering even more exposure of Ardern and her leadership – people finding examples of such ’empathy’:

    Lucia Maria

    July 26, 2022 at 11:15 am

    • Wittgenstein (currently @backtolife_2023) gets taken out by Twit regularly. Seems the powers that be do not like accounts that document what the leaders are up to.

      While as Neil Oliver (@thecoastguy) has a wider platform of GBNews, so is less able to be cancelled.

      I’m been wondering for a little while now, if the covid leaders are being set up. So, they’ve been given free-reign, and in Ardern’s case she’s really run with it; and after enough people have been jabbed sufficiently, the narrative is allowed to turn in a controlled fashion – completely discrediting them and governments in general, for the final stage of the plan, which is direct rule by the NWO.

      People are also looking very carefully at our covid numbers and remembering how we were supposed to be the poster child of Covid Zero. So now that our original stance has been shown to be completely useless (though the hypnotised still believe in it), those who are awake in the world are using our numbers as proof the whole Covid Zero was a farce (if people needed any more proof that is).

      The masks are just an effort to keep the narrative going and must be resisted.

      Lucia Maria

      July 26, 2022 at 11:57 am

  7. Well, well, well….. Even when they hit the mark of 2000 dead I did wonder that the MSM were not yet applying their new counting methods, but I guess they knew how symbolic that number was because today on RNZ…:

    The ministry said there were now a total of 1396 deaths confirmed as attributable to Covid-19, either as the underlying cause of death or as a contributing factor.


    Same with Newshub.

    BTW, even the original counts at RNZ in their data section have sometimes not matched their own headline numbers. Today they’re reading the (original counting method) total as 1981 deaths to date. The other day they had it as 2006, matching Newshub. As I understand it the reason is the removal of some deaths every now and again when it’s concluded that some past deaths were absolutely nothing to do with Covid or perhaps the tests were wrong.

    Tom Hunter

    July 26, 2022 at 3:55 pm

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