Even the most obtuse of the Western pro-China crowd seem to have now recognised that the efforts of the last twenty years to “liberalise” the place via FTA’s and cultural exchanges, has failed.
It’s hardly the only place in the world that so-called “Liberalism” has failed, but in this case the failure is creating problems that are immediate, combined with increasing worries about the long-term.
China’s growing assertiveness – I’d call it outright bullying – of various smaller nations in its vicinity has, in turn, resulted in pushback from those nations. The pushback has ranged from Vietnamese protesting and burning Chinese businesses – leaving American businesses alone even though they were the enemy fifty years ago and China a “friend” – to the Philippines and India moving closer to the West, especially towards the USA and especially in matters military.
But two nations in particular stand out among the others; Japan and South Korea. Both have been objects of ire for the Chinese for decades now, both are heavily industrialised, developed countries, both have substantial, well-trained militaries on sea, land and air.
But both also have a deeply rooted history of antagonism and sometimes outright hatred that goes back hundreds of years so the question is, Can They Overcome Their Divisions?, starting with an obscure, yet famous, work of art in an obscure Japanese museum:
And just in front of the Tokoyuni shrine, almost completely wrapped in a mantle of clouds, we can just make out another, much smaller shrine, called the Mimizuka, an unassuming edifice, little more than a heap of earth surmounted by a stone monument — or so it would seem to the casual observer.
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The English historian Stephen Turnbull has called this unassuming shrine “Kyoto’s least mentioned and most often avoided tourist attraction,” and indeed the Mimizuka seems still to be under something of a pall, just as it was 400 years ago when the Rakuchū rakugai-zu painter discretely concealed it beneath a clouded veil.There is a very good reason, mind you, that the Mimizuka shrine is not just ignored but actively avoided, and it can be found deep underground, where below the grassy hillock are entombed the remains of some 38,000 Korean and 30,000 Chinese noses, cleanly sliced away from their original owners during the catastrophic Japanese invasion of the Korean Peninsula that took place between 1592 and 1598.
The noses are there because they weigh less than the heads, which were supposed to have been sent back as proof of conquest. The article goes through all the other horrors that Japan inflicted on Korea from the the late 19th century to 1945 and discusses how even seeming resolutions of past injustices agreed upon by the respective governments, such as the so-called “Comfort Woman”, have fallen apart:
It did nothing of the sort, alas, and only two years later, the subsequent South Korean President Moon Jae-in was arguing that “the reality is the majority of our people cannot emotionally accept the comfort women agreement” before moving to shut down the Japanese-funded comfort women foundation.
But the article finishes on a hopeful note, even if that hope is driven by acts of deliberate memory loss driven by modern fears, rather than true understanding and forgiveness:
Japanese and South Koreans will likewise quickly forget disputes over comfort women or the contested sovereignty of the Liancourt islets when faced with China’s increasingly overweening geopolitical and ideological ambitions. Nothing focuses the mind or puts things in perspective quite like an existential threat
Perhaps, but as the author himself quotes from a Japanese novelist:
“History knew the truth. History was the most inhuman product of humanity. It scooped up the whole of human will and, like the goddess Kali in Calcutta, dripped blood from its mouth as it bit and crunched.”
I am unconvinced on the Big-Bad-China thing – and I suspect so are the actual Taiwanese people.
Don’t confuse the latter with the Kai-shek crowd of interlopers.
It seems to me that China has been the victim of “bullying” for virtually all of modern history and now it can finally stand up for itself, it scares the shit out of the previous bullies. i.e. The Western Powers.
Despite a fair bit of sabre rattling China so far has not even reclaimed it’s own boundaries let alone expanded.
Probably the only real change China is actually pushing is the legal relocation of some of it’s populace to places like Singapore.
Elsewhere internationally China is simply supplying resources (mainly financial and engineering) to countries currently lacking those resources.
That this gives China a bit of influence is probably great for China’s future but make no mistake, the West would utilise the same influence had they have assisted with those resources.
It seems to me that most of the West’s problems with China is of the “They are not one of us” sort.
So we have zip, zero, nothing to worry about with China’s expansion into the South Pacific … thank you for that assurance.
China’s expansion into the South Pacific?
Where? There is not one Chinese “vassal state” in the South Pacific.
China has invaded no one.
The one time Chinese troops have fought on it’s border (v India) they used fists and sticks.
All we’ve seen in the Pacific is China creating a positive influence by supplying things others don’t.
Put your bias aside and consider the facts, not the propaganda.
It isn’t bias M T, its projection – the West routinely accuses nations it doesn’t like of doing or aspiring to do what they are actually doing
Right now there is some serious dick wagging going on with the USS Ronald Reagan carrier group in the South China sea
Can you imagine what would happen if the Chinese played the same silly games in the Gulf of Mexico?
The sheer hypocrisy is astonishing
So how do you explain what’s happening in Tibet?
What is happening in Tibet Paranormal?
I doubt that you have ever been to Tibet, know anyone from Tibet and that your entire “knowledge” of the current situation in Tibet comes from people who have an anti Chinese ax to grind.
Tibet is a far off land that is not easily accessible from here and not something we can discuss intelligently if we are intellectually honest.
Conversely nobody in Tibet could discuss our local issues such as “Three Waters” or grasp the issues that underly that controversy or to be frank care less.
Consider Taiwan and the image of the crone Nancy Pelosi descending the plane gang way in that almost florescent salmon pink pants suit and the other imagery surrounding this circus, in particular supposed images of Chinese military exercises in the Taiwan strait – it is quite likely that this shown imagery is stock footage rather than contemporary video
And mostly unseen in the West were videos of local Taiwanese protesting this visit but protested it was
C’mon MT … get up to speed. China invaded both Tibet and Vietnam. Tibet remains under CCP control with an estimated 1.2m Tibetans killed, 6,000 monasteries destroyed and untold thousands of Tibetans imprisoned (source … Dalai Lama). As for Vietnam and you forget about the Sino-Vietnamese war when China invaded Vietnam in a conflict that produced an estimated 44,000 PLA causalities and three times that number of Vietnamese losses. I can well remember traveling on the Hanoi-HCM over-nighter. Had a two berth ‘soft sleeper’. My companion was a retired NVA Colonel. We conversed in fractured French. He said ‘Americans I have fought and I no fear … Chinese I have fought and I fear’.
Down in our neck of the woods China has moved to fill a gap where for many decades both Oz and ourselves took PI nations for-granted. They have effectively purchased both the Solomons and Tonga where they are calling the tune. In Tonga 2/3 of its o’seas debt is owed to China with 15% of the countries revenue going to service the debt. In the Solomons the internal situation is precarious with tension remaining high between the government of Manasseh Sogavare and Malaita (the countries most populous island province). Everywhere you go in Honaira you see Chinese flags … they are building everything and they’re not doing it for love. Sogavare is widely seen as in their pocket.
But again, thank you for your assurance that we have nothing to fear from China.
LOL more American chauvinism
USA good and everybody else bad, very bad
The USA has never, ever done bad things, atrocious things it is only other people who do that
That is why it is noble, for example, to bomb the crap out of Yugoslavia leading to occupation of the Serbian province of Kosovo and building the largest military base in Europe on those lands to keep the lesser people of the Balkans in check, for their own good.
Well lookie here a statue of Bill Clinton in Pristina
Andre I think the Serbian distrust thing goes back to Arch Duke Ferdinand assassination, but I might be wrong….
It might also go back to the Communist thingy that happened after ww2
A whole bunch of ordinary Serbians were probably over the moon that a whole bunch of thugs who were their political masters got their tickets punched by the Americans too.
The fact a whole truckload of European countries were sitting on their hands while various ethnics were being murdered probably had a small part to play in the Yanks got involved. You may have noticed that part of it disappearing once the the Yanks got involved so Bill’s statue is more than warranted.
Talking of getting their tickets punched, that same breed in Russia seem to be having a regular visit from the Ukrainian ticket collector.
Very poetic, but removes human guilt for the more destructive and murderous aspects of humanity; as if we are somehow separate and only subject to our own actions.
I guess the whole trade ideal, and theory of be nice and they will come, was under pinning the relationship with Russia.as well.
A fine theory that has not been proven in practice. It seems some people have blood running through their veins that doesnt gel with the civilization. theory.
And to think a vaste amount of jobs that were the back bone of the American mid west have been sacrificed on the alter of that theory. President Trump was right again.
China got economic advancement on the cheap, and to the cost of someone else.
President Trump was right again, build a big stick and wield it.Without him the USA would have been well on the way to a third rate power. Europe has learnt the hard way about appeasement but I guess they never had a Chamberlain in their history.
History never repeats (absolutely) but repeats with different details and different actors.
Fortunately Ukraine is paying the direct cost of the Russian blunder by the West but I suspect the huuman cost of the China blunder will echo down through history.
I confess myself amazed that there is almost nothing said about the Korea vs Japan aspect, which actually was the point of this post rather than American or Western perfidy vs China.
Oh well, that’s how posts sometimes go.
Well Tom since your opening paragraph is a diatribe about how “Western Liberalism” has failed to take hold in China perhaps you shouldn’t be surprised the conversation has taken the direction it has.
Now here is the thing that amazes me – the lack of insight on display of the failings of “Western Liberalism” to deliver utopia, not even in the West itself, let alone the global South which has been looted for generations to provide the wealth that makes the West more comfortable for most than in the looted lands.
What we are witnessing is the development of a new world order, a contest between the current globalist elites and those who have a different vision who have used the phrase “a Fair World Order” to describe the new settlement systems and so forth that are coming into play to conduct international trade.
The article you link about ancient emneties between Korean and Japanese people is a Neo Con using the old imperialist technique of divide and conquer to keep people subjugated, picking away at old sores to make people dislike each other rather than cooperate and thus making it easier to maintain control over them
We will see how this all plays out in the fullness of time but haggard Nancy Pelosi flying to Taiwan and babbling about “Freedom and Democracy™” in a Salmon Trouser Suit might play well on CNN but it sure don’t in Rio de Janeiro, New Delhi or Nairobi, it just looks ridiculous
Heh, heh, heh… Well in that case Andrei you’re going to love my next post.
And I’m not being sarcastic.
Wait! What?
The whole article, which I fully support in my post, is about Japan and South Korea healing those ancient emneties that lie between them. If any nation would benefit from picking away at old sores to enable divide and conquer it would be your new-found mates in the Chinese Communist Party.
Jesus! I realise the modern West, to which your parents escaped from the USSR for freedom, now pisses you off deeply but really? Xi and company? FFS!
Tom it’s reasonably common that the first or even second generation of people who escaped poverty and or tyranny to then turn around and shit on the society that gave their parent[s] sanctuary.
Deeply ungrateful.
Andrei is basically a coward, he safely can gripe and moan about the “west” and praise Russia but doesn’t actually have the balls to go and live there.
Going back years now I’ve often made the same point to Andrei about returning to Russia, but I have to acknowledge that his bitterness against NZ, America and the West in general is not just down to the rise of Putin, but a growing disenchantment with the West.
By contrast, here he is in a blog post he made in 2007: