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There are some posts that are just too much to not re-post in certain situations, and as we sit here on November 3rd, 2023, this is that situation. 🤣
Now I understand that Winston has acknowledged age some years ago by giving up whiskey and smoking. But goddammit, when he turns up on some platform with the TV cameras I want him with a cigar in one hand and a tipple in the other as he announces his decision.
Three years ago I wrote the following in a post, The Old Rogue Makes His Play:
Winston Peters is the most cunning politician in recent NZ history. He knows how to negotiate to form coalition governments and out-maneuver stronger opponents for personal and political gains seemingly out of reach of a party that polls not much above 5% at the best of times.
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He also knows how to reach out to his supporters and get them back, even after having betrayed them repeatedly.
Back then the topic to exploit was China. Now hardly mentioned, not with He Puapua and C-19 responses to attack.
I don’t often link to The Daily Blog, mainly because Anarcho-Marxist “Bomber” Bradbury (aka the Screaming Beard) seems to regard it less as a blog than an old-fashioned megaphone through which he just screams the same boiler-plate crap day after day to whip up the masses.
And when I say “the same” I mean he literally just copies and pastes the same stuff into different posts even on the same day. It looks like it only ends when he gets bored with a phrase or sentence.
Then there’s the hair-on-fire hysteria of it all: global boiling, ACT as Walter White because they want Pseudoephedrine to be put back into Sudafed, and “submachine guns” – that last being a mark of real pig ignorance, not that Bradbury cares because the more extreme the language the better as far as he’s concerned. Total twat. I’m glad he’s of the Far Left.
But the title of this post came from occasional guest writer, Tim Selwyn, who had me pissing myself laughing in his post, The last debate. Election Eve predictions and how Labour lost 2023 Election:
National first accepted this when Luxon ruled in working with NZ First. It seemed obvious that Farrar’s internal polling had told them NZF was clear over the 5% threshold and was making ground too fast to stop. Time to wake up and smell that heady mix of Chivas Regal, Old Spice and Rothmans that heralds the King-maker. The Nats would have liked to have ruled him out, but feared he would get up anyway and they wanted the way clear to put a deal together without reneging and losing credibility. This was a wise approach.
Tim’s pretty down on Labour, both in the election and the last three years, with the now standard complaint I’ve heard from most whinging Lefties that Labour, blessed as the first single majority party in MMP history, did nothing with it.
To which I can only reply, “Yay” and that they did enough damage to last the next thirty years.
Selwyn clearly does not like “Chippie” and thinks that “Robbo” has been playing Machiavellian games behind the scenes, scheming to become Labour’s leader in time for the 2026 election:
Chippy was smug about [losing] evidently. Smug like only a Wellingtonian can be – the smugness of knowing your useless skinny white arse devoid of talent or ability or judgment can still pull six figures in Wellington no matter how badly you perform.
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History cannot be harsh enough. He is a non-entity student politician in a Labour pantheon of student politicians.
I can’t address the first part but the rest is true. Chippie (and his Ministry of Education Mum) are Wellington on steroids.
Was the angry ginger dweeb who looks like a maths teacher who was getting personal at every turn, going negative, ranting and speaking across the moderator look like a good Prime Minister?
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Angry, negative, personal, desperate. Chip looked like the maths teacher appointed as interim Head of Department who knows he won’t get the HoD position after this interview
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I’m so glad I haven’t watched these “debates”.
But back to Machiavelli:
And just to make sure that plan works out Robbo’s kept that chalice topped up with toxic decisions and policies enough to prevent Labour winning. Chip is just Johnny on the spot, the perky dude that everyone else trusts to wear the suicide vest and do his best to take one for the team – that team being Robbo.
The masterstroke of this was convincing Chip to rule out Winston – the only possible path to a Labour government. Chip had been convinced to snooker himself. If any deal is to be done with Winnie someone else will have to do it, won’t they.
No Minister 
I go to Slater’s renamed blog and The Daily log on the understanding “know what they are doing”, and a degree of the macabre?
Screaming skulls abound, they walk amongst us.
Tom … if Winston sees himself as the Kingmaker then we need to understand that, by definition, a Kingmaker has options.
He could just as just as easily go with Labour … done it before and would do it again. Chippy’s ruling him out was meaningless rhetoric … faced with the prospect of being the Leader of His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition (and many years in the wilderness) he could very well reach out to WRP seeing him as a counter to the extremes of the Greens and TPM and offer him baubles that National would find it impossible to match.
And if you believe the Peters puts principles (the pinstriped dwarf doesn’t do principles) over baubles then I have the Auckland Harbour Bridge for sale … going for a song … how about ‘Dreams and Nightmares’?
You talkin’ to me, Willis?
Will be voting National electorate and ACT Party vote today.
Agree with all you’ve said, but apparently 5-7% of NZ voters don’t – and most of them are 65+ so don’t listen to youngins like myself.
Oh, and BTW, people like me have been warning National and ACT for months now that, as much as it might gag in your throat, you needed to throw the “anti-vax” group a bone or two in the form of a real review with teeth, because that group now consists of:
– the original tiny fringe of total anti-vaxxers.
– the much larger group of anti C-19 vaxxers.
– the even larger group who objected to the mandates.
– and now the group that did get vaxxed and are pissed off because they still caught and passed on C-19 and know they were forced into taking something that didn’t work as advertised.
Winston now has a good chunk of that vote. He’ll betray them of course but still.
Too right Tom. Dumb politics from National/ACT.
No mystery from National as they always follow Labours lead.
Harder to understand ACT at the time but with hindsight it’s clear Seymour is just a ignorant fool. If they had been true to their principles they would be at least at 20% and The Malignant Dwarf would be history.
It’s still astounding that Seymour is still singing the praises of the”vaccine” and mandates in the face the emerging evidence.
What a wasted opportunity.
Agree totally OC. Hard hitting but accurate assessment.
Its like blaming the ref for the AB’s loss.
Winston is nothing but a symptom of the failure of National and Act. Both had plenty of opportunity to change course in the middle of the debacle, but chose not to.
Neither took the issues by the scruff of the neck, and for that I will always scorn them, along with the that important minority who still have the ability to think for themselves. They ran for the bunker, leading the retreat like the Italian generals, from the back when clearly that was not the right option.
It was a failure of analysis as much as of leadership.
For Luxon it was his biggest failure, and history not yet writ may haunt him.
For Winston it was like taking candy off a baby, and for that you have to admire him.
But history is not yet writ for him either, he may have the opportunity to undo his failures and rewrite his future, after all he has the chance to cover himself in glory.
Vet, sorry, we know you are true blue but its time to stop singing off that National song sheet and do a bit of hard analysis. I’m sure the new AB coach isn’t swallowing the “we were hard done by bullshit. ”
As I said in my previous post the election that couldnt be lost, was lost. Seymour has swallowed his rat, no doubt Luxon will take the knee.
Perhaps the biggest bauble is Winston as PM, wouldn’t that be a turn up for the books.
As much as I despise the old Fox it must be admitted he is way smarter than Luxon and the ACT fool.
What a wasted opportunity. Labour were so awful that with a bit of courage they could have wiped the floor with Labour.
But no, they showed no courage or political smarts at all, in fact tried their best to lose the unloseable election. Every time Luxon and especially Seymour opened their mouths they lost votes.
Winston is not, and never was a “kingmaker.” This is an effete label conjured up by the idiotic msm. The voter, yes the voter, is the kingmaker if there is such a thing!