A few weeks ago I wrote a couple of posts about Lefty Jews dealing with the October 7, 2023 pogrom:

But those were focused on Western Lefty Jews, mainly in the USA. Within Israel itself one of the gigantic strategic mistakes made by Hamas and the civilian Gazans who support them was attacking the part of Israel, the traditional socialist Kibbutz’s, that were the most left-wing of Israeli Jews and the biggest supporters of Gaza, the two-state solution, and all the rest of it.
Had they attacked the hard-nosed Zionist “settlers” in the North who are steadily and illegally pushing out Palestinian land owners in the West Bank, they’d have had a better argument for “fighting back against colonialist genocide” and so forth. Having said that it hasn’t stopped Far Left fanatics like John Minto and Pat O’Dea making those robotic arguments over at The Daily Blog. I doubt that if they met any of the following three woman it would change their minds – or their propaganda strategies.
But the point here is that October 7 certainly changed the minds of these woman. It’s still possible that in a postwar environment (if there is such a thing over there) they might reach out to help Gazan civilians as they used to – but it’s going to take a while before that happens, if ever, and in the meantime they appear to be in the same mindset as the dreaded Far Right, Extremist, Fascist, Netanyahu. Just listen to them.
Irit Lahav, 57, was a peace activist who believed in the decency of the Palestinian people. Then, on Oct. 7, ordinary Gazans joined in a terrorist attack that left more than one in four of her neighbors in Kibbutz Nir Oz dead or abducted. Lahav, a manager at a travel company, long participated in peace demonstrations. In recent years, she volunteered for an Israeli charity called Road to Recovery, driving Palestinian children from the border of the Gaza Strip, less than two miles from her home, to Israeli hospitals for life-saving medical care.
“We thought that Palestinians are good people. All they want is peace and prosperity,” Lahav told the Washington Free Beacon in an interview from a hotel in this Red Sea resort city where she and most of her community were temporarily relocated. “It’s just that Hamas is forcing them to be in this aggressive situation.”
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“I am thinking about myself being foolish until now?”
The next woman, Ola Metzger, 45, had planned to send her daughter on a Holocaust education trip to Poland. No need for that now as a little bit of the Holocaust turned up at their door, including this crucial similarity:
Just as tens of thousands of German civilians willingly joined in the Nazis’ extermination of six million Jews, masses of ordinary Gazans flooded into Israel on Oct. 7 behind the Hamas terrorists who led the surprise assault. Footage from a number of the targeted communities shows dozens of ordinary-looking Gazans looting and taking part in killings and kidnappings of Israelis.
“The second wave of Arabs who came into the country were just as cruel as the terrorists of the first wave,” Gadi Yarkoni, the mayor of the Eshkol Regional Council, which encompasses most of the Gaza border communities, told the Free Beacon in October. “We saw that it was not only Hamas who came to slaughter us. It was all the residents of Gaza, including people who worked in our kibbutzim.”
The last woman in this video series hid in a “panic room” in her house for hours, listening to a Gazan woman who took over their home and then sat around watching Netflix, eating and drinking whatever was available in between serving Hamas terrorists who were hungry and thirsty after all their butchering and raping.
Know yourself and know your enemy…..
Rules of life and war since the year dot.
Taqiyya was practiced on these naive kibbutzim as part of recon prior to the attack…. People who worked on the kibbutz attacked them… No surprise there.
The situation is intractable. Fundamentalist Muslims will never stop till Israel is eliminated. Why left wing Israelis think otherwise is beyond me.
The best that can happen is hard line Jews are physically stopped from seizing Arab land, and overtime things settle to a truce.
But the truce wont hold and conflict will rise in intensity again as some hard line Rabbi or Imam will stir it all up again till blood flows.
What a mess
I don’t profess to know what the real solution here is, but I do know that advocating for the opposite of what lefty-idiots like the Greens and Phil Twyford want is a great place to start.
“A Left that is fixated on “decolonization” mistakes a death cult for a liberation movement and is unable to recognize a bloodbath, even one that was filmed, and publicized worldwide, by the killers themselves.”
https://quillette.com/2023/11/18/the-return-of-the-progressive-atrocity/
It’s worse than that. At first I thought it was wooden-headed denial but having read many comments over at places like TDB it’s now apparent to me that precisely because the photos and videos and their sources were so undeniable the Far Left have said “fuck it” and decided to fully embrace Hamas as freedom fighters irrespective of what they do..