
“It was completely natural for me to favor not only the most disadvantaged but those who distill hatred for the West most purely.” – French writer Jean Genet (1974)
The rejection of Israel is the Muslim’s most powerful aphrodisiac. – Morocco’s King Hassan II
Today marks one year since the Hamas terrorist group, aided by Gazan civilians, launched the greatest pogrom against the Jews since the Holocaust, killing almost 1300, of which just 300 were soldiers.
Here in NZ Philip Crump (aka “Thomas Cramner”) writes of what he saw when viewing the collection of videos and photos of the attack, almost all of it from the phones and Goro cameras of Hamas members killed or captured by the IDF counter-attack, Bearing Witness to October 7. Some key quotes:
The Embassy invited approximately 60 people from New Zealand media to attend – 12 of us accepted.
This is the media that the Far Left supporters of Hamas criticise as being pro-Israel. They too are marking this date, as John Minto does in that link, with a huge effort in telling people like Cranmer not to believe their lying eyes:
After some reasonable initial reporting, which included interviews with Hamas leaders, within 24 hours a massive wave of Israeli propaganda overwhelmed the western world’s mainstream media. This propaganda was not aimed to downplay the striking success of the Palestinian resistance, which was undeniable, but to deploy a surge of misinformation and disinformation to turn Israelis into the victims and Palestinian resistance fighters into bloodthirsty inhuman monsters whose only aim was to slaughter Israeli civilians, behead Israeli babies, rape Israeli women and children, pillage and destroy Israeli homes and communities….From a guerilla war point of view, in a David Vs Goliath context, the attack was a stunning success.
Getting yourself destroyed is not what I’d count as a “striking” or “stunning success”, but that single comment sums up the depths of self-deception Minto’s Far Left mind is capable of, as well as his description of a media that quite clearly did not want to see what Hamas themselves showed. With Minto it’s like watching the novel Nineteen Eighty Four wearing a living, breathing skinsuit.
By contrast this is what Cranmer saw:
I expected to see men, women and children slaughtered but the level of hatred and barbarity was incomprehensible. Often the mutilation continued after the victim was killed as if that were only one stage in a process that would continue until what was left was unrecognizable. We saw 139 killings or bodies but in many cases the bodies were so disfigured or burned that they ceased to look human.
I’ve written before about the likes of Hamas in Longing for Auschwitz: they do not long for anything so distancing of the human soul as the industrialised Nazi death camps. They don’t just want the jews to die, but to die in torment, they want it to be up close and personal and on October 7 they made it so.
In another scene, a dead man is lying prone on the ground. An attacker takes a garden hoe and hacks the head from the body with repeated strikes. In the next scene, a man calmly bends over and uses a large knife to remove the head of a dead IDF soldier before walking off with it. There are too many images of young children in their pyjamas to count – mostly shot in the head or the chest.
While murdering an adult may merely make you a killer, with the title of barbarian needing the extra act of decapitation, murdering babies and little kids is an instant transition to the latter form of human being.
Back to Minto:
Dozens of Israeli soldiers were killed and many more taken back to Gaza as prisoners of war. It was an astonishing feat of military ingenuity, daring and courage in the face of Israel’s newly elected far right government…
The treatment of those Israel soldiers resembled more what was seen in WWII with the treatment of Nazi and Soviet POWs by each side and the treatment of Allied POWs by the Japanese Imperial Army. This time the treatment extended to the dead:
There are communications back to Hamas commanders – one instructs the gunman to “bring the body back to let the people play with it”. In others, gunmen are calling their parents to boast of the number of Jews that they had killed. In other scenes bodies are taken back to Gaza as trophies to hundreds of people celebrating in the streets with mobile phones in their hands.
Much of that had already been seen in public anyway, since Hamas and the Gazans saw no shame in uploading and broadcasting such open celebrations. Yet even with that visceral hate exposed, Minto is in full-blown denial that echoes the communist propaganda used in defence of the Nazis between September 1939 and June 1941. I’m not going to quote his defence here, but you can check it at the link.
There’s something eerily Terminator-like about his denials and accusations, which are two sides of the same propaganda coin (no systemic rape by Hamas, but definitely practiced by the Israelis), but then that dead-eyed roboticism is also a characteristic of the communist shills of history. Being a modern version he naturally talks not of class but, “the oppressor-oppressed paradigm“, which ties into his approach to South Africa and here at home in New Zealand.
That’s where the quote from French writer Jean Genet enters the picture as the article, A Palestine of the Mind, explains the history that has produced the Western Minto’s of this cause:
[The Palestinians] were poor, in contrast with the purported colonizers, who arrived partly from Europe (though a million Jews thrown out of Arab countries, beginning in 1948, also became Israelis); and they were Muslims, that is, members of a religion that some on the left see as the spearhead of the disinherited. Thus, during a time when leftist revolutionary horizons were darkening, a certain orphaned progressivism took up the Palestinian revolt against Israel. Surprisingly, however, what originated as a minority preference has developed into a majority position, winning significant support from the highest reaches of political power and from the academy, in both Europe and the United States—and reshaping the mind of an era.
I don’t think Minto and company are Jew-haters. Rather they are like their forebears, completely transactional in who they support and oppose (and always without nuance, with 100% screaming either way), as long at it pushes forward their global cause of smashing down the West. As such they’re not really supporters of the Palestinians, any more than they ever really cared about South African Blacks. Minto in particular has simply moved from targeting and helping destroy the most indefensible Western nation to what he sees as the next most indefensible. Of course in the case of Israel the whole oppressed-oppressor thing is a lot harder to pull off due to history:
The actual fate of millions of men and women subjected to daily humiliation and to precarious life circumstances, governed by a corrupt Palestinian Authority and, in Gaza, by Hamas, a terrorist group, seems to matter little. The reason: the Middle East has become the site of a global contest for the title of victim—a title that must be wrested from the descendants of the Shoah.
In that the Far Left have had remarkable success in the last few decades. For example, in 2002, the editor of Témoignage Chrétien – a French weekly of the Catholic Left, Georges Montaron, wrote that:
In the hearts of all the poor of the Arab world, the Fedayeen are heroes, the living image of liberators. Like Che Guevara in Latin America, the Palestinian resistance is a flame that illumines the oppressed and spreads from each person to his neighbor. Here again, even more than among us, resistance is a synonym for Revolution, and it bears an incalculable messianic power.
Considering what a murderous, torturing piece of shit Che Guevara was well known to be by 2002, you’d think anybody not a Communist, even a Left Catholic, would shudder to associate him with the Palestinians, although given the behaviour of the Gazans on October 7 perhaps Montaron was more correct than he knew. In any case that reference to the 1960’s glory days of Guevara is not accidental:
Radical Islam has become the last great left-wing political narrative, replacing Communism and Third Worldism. In the category of the good revolutionary subject, the shaheed, the jihadist, the martyr of Hamas or of al-Qaida replaces the proletarian, the guerrilla fighter, the Bolshevik.
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This pro-Palestinian activism had its precedent in the twentieth century, when the far Left—having lost the USSR, the working class, and China—first embraced the idolatry of Islam. The neo-Koranic enthusiasm of the lost believers in Marxism forced activists into ideological contortions concerning the rights of gays, women, and other groups, and such contradictions are evident in the current protests.
Have they ever: Queers for Palestine is mentioned, as is the case where on March 8 2024, the International Day of Women’s Rights, French feminists, who wanted to demonstrate alongside other activists to call attention to the rapes and killings perpetrated by Hamas on October 7, were denounced as fascists by keffiyeh-wearing agitators – another echo of Minto in his denial that Hamas used rape as a weapon of war, even as multiple other Islamic Jihadist groups have done so to non-Jewish woman.
In any case, since the distant days of 2002 “revolutionary flames that illumine” have been replaced by 21st century ideas of the Post-Modern Left, the ideas that lead to those “ideological contortions”:
The new Judeophobia typically expresses itself in the name of antiracism. It rejects any comparison with the sickening doctrines of the 1930s, and even claims to fight against anti-Semitism, but condemns the Jews—excuse me, the “Zionists”—in the name of humanity. Purported altruism, in France as in America, now allows for drawing up lists of “Zionists” to unmask and stigmatize in film, music, media, politics, and business as complicit with the “genocidal state” of Israel.
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Let us add that Wokeism—above all, in its critical race theory manifestations—legitimizes Judeophobia: since Jews are white, and all whites are racists by birth, in its view, then to be antiracist is also to be anti-Semitic.
Of course there is still a chunk of the Old-Right around (and perhaps a New Right in the underground of 4Chan and such) that are attracted to “Judeophobia” like moths to the flame, forming so-called Red-Brown alliances, which so far has not been a problem for Minto and company here in NZ but which have been in France:
… most notably, La France insoumise, the movement led by Jean-Luc Mélenchon, spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood and tireless scourge of Jewish lobbies.
Meh. Like the Nazi-Soviet cooperation of 1939-1941 I’m sure they’ll shrug it off, just as they have the history of alliedship between arch-communist Ho Chi Minh and arch-Zionist David Ben Gurion:
One morning The Daily Worker followed Pravda and described Nazis as true friends of the working class; the next, nothing too strong could be said against them. Crucially, and as Orwell dramatized in Nineteen Eighty-Four, there was never an admission that any change had taken place.
All very well, but just as Putin didn’t wake up one day and just decide to invade Ukraine for shits and giggles, the hate comes from *somewhere*. It’s not just irrational bigotry. The Arabs of the Holy Land have been grievously wronged, and the imposition of a Jewish State upon them in 1948 was about as malicious an act of the West as one can get. The confiscation of land and the denial of human rights has been ongoing. The barbarity of the pushback, while dismaying, should not surprise anyone. It only surprises those who really do think the Jews are the true inheritors of the territory, and can’t understand why these pesky Arabs can’t just get with the program like everyone else.
None of this, of course, makes John Minto not a dick. And you are correct that he cares nothing for the Palestinian cause, only the socialist one for which they are a useful rallying point. The disgusting barbarity of the State of Israel’s enemies makes it easy to forget that there’s no good guys in this theatre.
The Jew’s have been in that land for 4 thousand years, long before there was any Arab settlements. It was called Judea.
It was called a lot of things. And a lot of people have lived there. Christians have occupied the Holy Land consistently, and for longer, than Jews, or the Israelites whom they falsely claim to be the inheritors of. There’s no rational, non religious based claim for Jews to the Holy Land. At all. And as much as I want them all to live in peace and prosperity, I’m not sure what they expect.
Yeah, nah
That land is the Jewish home land and always has been.
1948 was in the middle of a wave of ethnic relocations in Europe – Poles, Germans moved forcibly in their millions in the years post war.
The Jewish people had been slaughtered in an industrial nightmare which was just the latest manifestation of the ongoing pogroms against them.
The two state solution the UN mandated in the former Turkish Imperial territories of the Middle East was designed to given Jews a homeland and safety. The Arabs got the vast majority of the land in the form of Trans Jordan. It was an equitable solution given the circumstances and the immediate history of the world in the late 1940s
But the Arabs decided trans Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt weren’t enough, so ganged up to try and wipe the Israelis out in 1948 and failed. They tried again in the 50’s, the 60’s and the 70’s armed and encouraged by the Soviets. And much to the mighty USSR’s embarrassment were soundly defeated.
The Arabs of the Holy Land? Which ones? The million plus living in Israel peacefully or the originally left wing inspired, now Islamist driven Arabs? Which Arabs the ones who arrived in the 1920s and 1930s?
Israel exists. Its not going away. Jews will never, ever allow themselves to be dispersed globally and easily destroyed.
Both sides have engaged in inhumane conduct. But the Israelis have nowhere to go, and when you fight for existence niceties go out the window.
Numerous religions claim the Holy Land. Why Jews especially?!
You don’t have a legitimate reason because there isn’t one. They have religious beliefs that assert that authority, and nothing else that others don’t have better receipts for.
“But the Israelis have nowhere to go…“
Nonsense. The United States gives them constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion. They can go anywhere with these freedoms. They have no God given right to a Jewish State any more than Indus valley residents have a right to a Muslim one.
Why the Jews especially? Because they have been there since recorded history? And the other religious claimants are just successful splinters off the original Abrahamic belief syatem.
And because millions were slaughtered in the 1940s.
As for the UN guaranteeing their safety. Give me strength .. The UN cant guarantee anyones safety… Ask the Bosnians and Rwandans
Israel exists. It wont be driven out or exterminated
“Because they have been there since recorded history?”
Nah dude, they’ve been in Europe. Modern Jews =/= Ancient Israelites. *Some* Jews have lived in the Holy Land since the dissolution of Judea and the destruction of the Second Temple in 70AD, but not many. Do these people have Ancient Israelite ancestry? Maybe. You know who else does? Christians and Muslims who already live in the Holy Land and the Levant, and have done for two millenia. Actual Middle Eastern people.
“…the other religious claimants are just successful splinters off the original Abrahamic belief system”
The original Abrahamic belief system prepared the way for Jesus Christ. Modern Judaism is itself a splinter. Ancient YHWH worship depended on the Temple and on sacrifice as atonement for sins. Modern Jews do not have a temple and don’t sacrifice animals as the Torah commands. Why is this? Because they completely reordered their faith in the 2nd Century AD. They held a council and everything. It’s completely different from 2nd Temple Judaism. In fact 2nd Temple Judaism is better represented in Orthodox and Trad Catholic liturgical worship, where the Priests offer the Eucharist as the atoning sacrifice.
“And because millions were slaughtered in the 1940s.”
Guilting me into establishing a homeland for your religion on someone else’s land isn’t going to work this way. I didn’t gas any Jews. And actually, neither did Holy Land Arabs. That was a bunch of Germans. If you’re really invested in that argument, maybe the Jewish State should be Silesia, where Auschwitz is, and which got given to Poland after the war anyway. I don’t see why Arabs should have to suffer for German sins.
“Which Arabs the ones who arrived in the 1920s and 1930s?”
At the risk of doing too many responses to the comment, I couldn’t let this one go. This is classic Alinskyite accusations of that of which Jews are guilty. You hear this stuff all the time, that when the Jews arrived, *nobody* lived in the Holy Land, the Arabs only moved in later, blah blah blah… all garbage. Do you know when the Arabs arrived? 636AD. And they’ve been there ever since.
Tolerant cultures put up with intolerant cultures, but only to a point, least they become extinct like the moriori.
The land Israel sits on has a long and chequered history, and there aren’t any nice easy answers.
Its not civilisation as we know it.
it is not justified on any level.
The equivalent was Maori society before the advent of the white man, barbarity unchecked . No wonder so many chiefs sought accommodation by taking the knee to the crown. They could see no other solution to the the ascendency of the Barbarian among them
That is why Israel is correct in their policy of wiping them and Iran off the face of the earth.
Men of peace and civilisation must be given a chance to rise to the top
No matter what you think of Israel, TDB is a toxic swamp where people don’t ever bother using the word “Zionist” anymore.
They just talk about the problem with “Jews”
Where if you question people for labelling Israel as a nation of pedophiles, the editor of that blog will delete your comments.
So maybe Minto doesn’t hate Jews, but a lot of people there that follow him (and the editors rants) do, and it seems that behaviour is encouraged there
Then again the editor of the place idolises Che Guevara like all the hip kids
And right on time
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2024/10/07/october-7th-the-anniversary-of-a-genocide-winners-losers-conclusions/
Somehow I knew it’d be Trumps fault
Reading these horrific reports I can see the obvious results of dehumanising propaganda and indoctrination that has been instilled from infancy. The West should take heed and reclaim the educational institutions that have been overrun by marxist, post-modernist, narcissistic identity politics obsessed claptrap merchants and restore rational thought as soon as possible.
After the USSR fell I figured it would take the deaths of the Boomers and Gen-X’rs to finally wipe out communism and the Far Left in general.
Sadly it has become obvious that new Mintos and Bradbury’s are on the way up, driven more by modern Farl Left theories that piggy-back on Marxism rather than preaching it.
One of those modern Leftist ideas driving all this anti-Israeli firestorm is not mentioned in that City-Journal article to which I linked. They had:
Anti-racism
Critical Race Theory
But forgot…
settler colonialism
Hey. Why the Gen-X hate? I think as an age group we roll our eyes at everyone.
Heh. I should have phrased it better as I simply meant the two generations to which these communists and Far Lefters belong, who came of age when the USSR was still around.
Obviously there were a majority of Boomers and Gen-Xr’s who thought the likes of Minto and Bradbury were full of shit with their Far Left theories of economics and social organisation.
When they’re gone society will be dealing with those members of the Millennials, Gen-Z and beyond who have no memories of classic communism but will be full bore with the shit theories that I mentioned.
To be honest I was more surprised seeing some say “Gen X”. Most people skip from Boomer to Millennial. Which is OK because it means we get to keep the best music to ourselves and laugh at all the things these other generations think they invented (or that they think they run the world)
“There’s no rational, non religious based claim for Jews to the Holy Land. At all.”
Absolutely.
Exactly the point.
Their only claim is based on the several unconditional promises of God to the Jewish ancestors. Unconditional promises which have never been rescinded.
Therefore they are one of the evidences of the supernatural, and of the character of God who keeps his promises.
Therefore the wider war is between the definition of good (God) and evil. Evil will do whatever it can to wipe out any evidence of a good God.
Even the definition of good vs evil depends on the existence of the supernatural.
Time to read the Bible seriously, and not dismiss it as some only-human collection of nice stories.
Cheers, W
“Therefore they are one of the evidences of the supernatural, and of the character of God who keeps his promises.”
In what way are people who reject Jesus Christ evidence of the promises of Christ?
The inheritors of the promises of God are those who follow Jesus Christ. Not people who reject Christ.
Dispensationalist Christianity presumes that when the Bible says “Israel” it means “Modern Jews”. It does not. Israel is the Church, the people who actually follow Christ the True God. If Modern Jews are in the Bible, they are the bad guys. They are Gog and his hordes of Ezekiel 38 and 39. Which is bad news for them.
“evidence of the promises of Christ?”
Say what ?
The bulk of the promises of the Christ are recorded in the book we call “Revelation”; the promises to the seven churches and the revelation VIA Jesus Christ, which god gave him,(Jesus), as recorded by John . Another conundrum of the humanity distinction of God-the-Son transferring information to us as humans limited to a one-way time-line; from that which is outside of time (and the creator of time).
Where were the unconditional promises of God to Abram, Isaac, Jacob, ever rescinded?
“Israel is the Church, Dispensationalist….” I can disagree on that position. Mostly from the writings of Paul to the Romans in Ch 9, 10, 11.
Ezek 36 onwards may well be what we are watching today.
“people who reject Jesus Christ”
Yes, for a time; and yet there is a record that will change; as in Zech 12-7 to 13-2.
Also that the coming holocaust will wipe out two-thirds of the Israelis Zech 13-7 to 14-3. Hitler and crew managed about a third.
None of which excuses the evil. On either side.
Cheers, W
Hemmed and hawed about replying to this for a couple of days, but concluded that, if you’re stuck trying to explain the Holy Trinity to someone, they have bigger theological problems than you could ever fix.
Modern Jews are not Biblical Israel.
Modern Jews are not Biblical Israel.
Modern Jews are not Biblical Israel.
Try applying that to your Biblical exegesis. You’d be amazed how gorshdarned Christian the Bible becomes as a result.
Whose Land Is It? Almost a Biblical Story