There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Luxon’s position as Prime Minister is untenable.
He hung his hat on the Maori Elite. He did a deal with them ahead of his main responsibilities to the vast bulk of the NZ public. He didn’t hang his hat on the principle of Democracy. When in Opposition he hung his hat on silence while a repugnant Marxist took the country to the brink.
He has been found badly wanting, not only in this area but the economy as well. Fluffing around with minor reforms that are trumpeted as major successes.
His judgement is faulty. Virtually the whole country, whatever their political persuasion, have answered the big question “We believe in Democracy”: we have the right to a referendum and we have the right to set this country back on the principles that it was founded upon.
We have to stop the Maori elites: we have to stop the Tamiheres’ and Willy Jacksons’ of this world before they destroy our country.
This is no minor setback, its a referendum on Nationals performance 1 year into their 3 year term, and it is withering. National lost votes at the last election because of Luxon’s less than stellar performance. Now that view stands no rebuttal. It is terminal.
My Solution.
Luxon can’t apologise and restart, its gone too far. Like Key before him (no doubt his mentor), he has to resign over Christmas.
Seymour becomes the PM, with a National deputy until a new National leader is found; there must be someone there who had a contrary opinion to Luxon but was silenced by the dogma? Winston stays at Foreign Affairs.
Seymour has 4 main objectives:
- Run the Referendum.
- Set up an economic task force composed of Treasury, ex Treasury types like Graeme Wheeler, and other private sector consultants to come up with total reform package of the NZ economy in 3 months.
- Tackle the Public Service in a meaningful way, 20,000 to 30,000 redundancies by next Christmas. Cut their wages and benefits by 50%, cut public service waste massively – especially that directed to public works that have no economic return.
- If Simeon Brown is worth anything, so a rewrite of the Local Government Act within 3 months, tackling:
- Voter eligibility: back to one vote, first-past-the-post elections.
- Restricting their rights to borrow and set rates.
- Tightly defining their roles and responsibilities.
- Turn public roads (paid for by previous generations) back to roads and public parking, etc, etc.
If Brown is useless, replace him in the post Christmas reshuffle.
Sorry Chris but your run is over, you were out of your depth and it was a job too far for your CV.
Please do the country a favour and go quietly.
The country is desperately in need of a break, a break for the good, a break for the long term future which puts us firmly and irrevocably on the path back to democracy.
Most New Zealanders are sick to death of rent seeking layers and judges who are judicial activists for a minority of the population and who have put their own status above the ordinary person. Time to end that as well.
No Minister 
Well that post should get the chattering class chattering….
I can’t imagine National giving the top position to David Seymour, even temporarily.
You’re dreaming.
It’s simply not how it works in real life politics. There’s no mandate for change and any change would be undemocratic as we currently have the government and leader that was selected in the general election. You and others may well want a change, but if it happens it will be in the next election.
The only thing that could bring leadership change before the election would be ongoing and catastrophic polling disasters. That is not happening so there won’t be a leadership change.
I think Maverick is not saying anything too radical. Luxon resigns, Seymour takes over for say 6 months, and this allows time for National to regroup and find a new leader.
Its a credibility issue with Luxon, isnt it.? This a blunder of epic proportions, he’s misread the room, been adamant about it, boxed National into a corner, and displayed a lack of a political nous.
With such a rebuttal in any other country he would be gone.
Its nothing less than a fundamental issue.
The country didnt vote on this position, Luxon sprang his position on the country after the election, with a deal with Winston and/ or Seymour.
What I would want to know who was the clever clogs that outsmarted Luxon so badly as for him to make a complete tit of himself ?
There’s popular support for ACT’s bill but that does mean a that there is popular support for what is effectively a change of government.
At the last election there was an overwhelming mandate for a National led coalition not an ACT lead coalition. To change that for a single issue would be undemocratic.
As I said the other day – it sure is a doozy Maverickats.
I don’t like Luxon!
From what I can see he was put in position because he was a business CEO (or what-ever) and the last business CEO/Owner (John Key) was very successful.
Luxon ain’t! But ……………………
Who the hell will you replace him with who is not on the same gravy train?
Rather New Zealand needs a serious political rethink. At this stage I’d normally suggest putting a married couple in but given the times we live in he’d be a poof and she’d have voted for the communists in ’20.
Get rid of party politics!
Change the system to outlaw party politics and then elect the best 100-120 people available. Make it NZ law that serving a term is the only exemption criteria. Anyone breaking that law should be forced to leave NZ – within 5 days with zero compensation.
Make every MP responsible for reflecting the wishes of the electorate exactly. 100 – 120 MPs should mitigate the extremes while regular public meetings should be able to guide the representatives.
Any MP not representing the wishes of his electorate should be tried an then publicly flogged.
Tell the UN to go fuck itself!
At the same time shoot, without mercy, the racist traitors, the racist fraudsters, anyone proclaiming their “green” credentials and, of course, anyone stupid enough to have voted Lab/red/racist in the last ten years. (They won’t be missed, least of all by the shooters).
In ten years time We’ll have a New Zealand we can be proud of, once again striding the halls of success.
We’d also have a strong fire-arms industry.
I suspect that politically Mr Luxon is only apparently opposed to the Principles Bill but personally his attitude sits elsewhere. In the New Year the pool of silence on the Maori issue otherwise called NZ First is due to break out its version of how to deal with this running sore. The rumours claim it is far more resounding than ACT’s bill and that National will unconditionally rally around it. I regard Mr Luxon as a competent PM with the intellectual grunt to be a great PM. If anyone here prefers Ardern as PM just call her up…..I dare you!!!!
Cadwaller, there are 5,000,000 + of us here. Why the fuck would the choice, any choice, be between Luxon and the communist cunt?
It was a hypothesis rather than a comparison simpliciter. I am surprised you slowed down sufficiently to ponder it at all given your very strange and steaming rhetoric on Mr Luxon having to resign “by Christmas.” That absurdity is quickly losing all measure of reality as there are now fewer than fourteen days for it to occur. Will you extend your brain-fart to Easter once your Christmas delusion evaporates?
who is more boring?
Keir Starmer
Christopher Luxon
Cad, I love a good theory and I love a good rumour but for both those things to occur you need, as the energy drink advert says, a good set of wings.
So your theory says Luxon has been lying for a year or so because thats not really his view, (only the first reading then its dead) and that Winston has been lying too about his “no principles in the Treaty” position
For that to be true both would have to be superb actors, and as both are pretty average at most things i find that hard to believe.
A nice position to have , “you regard Luxon as competent” Ummmmm, they have been several posts from some very clever people on this blog demonstrating with facts the Luxon is not particularly competent. You claim is absent of any supporting facts.
Luxon has put himself and National in a paperbag, can he find a way out ?
Maverick has a solution, I tend to favour the resignation approach too. It allows National to reset on the issue. Surgical and clean.
And of course exercising Luxon sends a very clear message to radical and trough dwelling Maori.
How’s the “Luxon must resign by Christmas” hypothesis going? Only 12 days to go now or did you mean Christmas 2029?