Have a listen to this interview from a couple of days ago with Moana Maniapoto of Te Ao news.

It is a good listen, lengthy at just under 37 minutes, confrontational at times but, while I do no not like her Politics I do enjoy the way Moana handles most interviews and she and Winston give no ground.

Jack Tame and co could learn a lot from watching her.

The facial expressions in this video alone make the watch worthwhile, entertaining even but, do not miss the message within.

Back to the point of the heading for the post – have a listen from about the 24 minute mark and tell me what you think.