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Introducing the new 2023 makeup fashions

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We’ll get to the fashion in a second.

But first the fascism – or to be fair our new strange mixture of private sector totalitarianism in cooperation with the State, rather than either the State-directed control of the private sector (Fascism) or the 100%-State-owned world of Communism.

Which makes it all feel creepier, especially when it comes to how we citizens (subjects?) can combat this new and hideous “ideology”.

The news from Nineteen Eighty Four arriving in 2022, courtesy of Consumer NZ, is as follows:

If you shop at one of more than 320 Pak’nSave, New World or Four Square stores in the North Island, you may have been scanned by facial recognition technology (FRT). The technology is currently in use in 29 stores in the North Island, but Foodstuffs NI would not confirm which stores.

Emma Wooster, Foodstuffs NZ’s head of public relations, said: “Facial recognition technology is one of the only tools we’ve identified that could help us to proactively target and reduce theft, burglary, robbery, assault and other aggressive, violent or threatening behaviour by repeat offenders. Facial recognition technology is only used for this specific and limited purpose.”

Says you. For now. In case Ms Wooster has not noticed we’ve just emerged from our first Pandemic Scare of the 21st century (there will be others) that involved any number of State mandates on people doing ordinary, everyday stuff – like shopping at supermarkets.

Of course masks would actually bugger up this technology so there’s that. And such thoughts also lead to ideas about how to combat the technology short of masking. Here’s some fashion suggestions.

Of course it all begs the question of how our society managed to keep “theft, burglary, robbery, assault and other aggressive, violent or threatening behaviour by repeat offenders”, under control for so many decades without such technology.

Some combination of a decent society filled with civilised, educated citizens with solid moral and ethical codes, plus a few decent Police officers, judges and prisons to deal with those who consistently showed they lacked those features.

I think that was the answer. At least it seemed to be so within living memory.


Written by Tom Hunter

December 1, 2022 at 8:12 am


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The growing societal criminality and total disregard for the Law, is not yet in my face but it is becoming increasingly apparent in various ways to be closing in.

Near neighbours, originally from the Republic of SA have a late teens son who does part time at Maccas while studying at uni. Parks his Nissan car on street outside parents house, last Sunday morning around 0300 hrs an enterprising lowlife stole it, to be discovered not far away with the ignition wrecked.

Tuesday morning around 0600 a break-in of the storage container at the camp we enjoy as respite care as often as possible, another stolen car. discovered around 4kms south of that crime scene, burnt out at 0700 by fire on the side of the scenic highway at Mt Hutt Station gate. No success for plod on either perp”.

Who in these troubled times does not carry a “Blade”? What passes for news is littered with a stabbing death or narrow escape involving a knife on a daily basis.

That Woman, who found time in her busy schedule to make an appearance at the final farewell for the young man recently married, who sadly tried to end an event involving a stolen cash drawer from his relatives Dairy in Sandringham, only to end up stabbed to death not far from the place of business he was minding while the proprietors were on leave back in India.

The answer from Dear Leader: possible easier access for small business owners to enable installation of Fog Cannons. Her poodle Police Commissioner is moved to review the “No chase policy” as, believe it or not, more lowlife outlaws are avoiding arrest by simply speeding away in the likely stolen car. Who knew that might happen?

So expect the outlaw perps to have a gas mask along with their “Blade” as essential additional equipment to the stolen wheels.

Thanks be, the NZLP is not “soft on crime”! Imagine the chaos if that was not so?

Meanwhile the Media, as one, are far more obsessed with Mr Luxon renting a building he owns, very likely at a lower rental cost than the market, to “Parliamentary Services”, as an electorate office entirely lawfully: as opposed to a Hutt Valley Labour MP who did a sweetheart deal over her Office arrangements that was not quite so within the rules a wee while ago!

Am I being naive to wonder if there could be rioting in the streets in the not so far distant future? The damaged are getting more numerous with each day that passes.

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November 30, 2022 at 11:09 am

Half Measures

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The following is from some NZ MSM source. I’ve removed the word, “allegedly”.

“I need justice for my brother,” Patel’s sister told the Weekend Herald via an intermediary last night.

Mourners are set to gather tonight for a candlelit vigil near the scene of the death of Patel — a man remembered as a “cherished loved one” — as shock waves about the “heinous” fatal stabbing continue to be felt in communities throughout the country.

Patel died on Wednesday night after being stabbed by a man who stole a cash register from the Rose Cottage Superette.

He was fatally injured after following the robber and then getting into an altercation with him about 100m from the store.

Six months ago the Government set up a $6 million fund to protect businesses from violent robbery – but less than a quarter of that fund has been used.

Police have committed $1.488m for assessments and installations. So far 240 stores have been contacted by officers, but just seven stores have had work fully completed.

The “work” includes such things as fog cannons. No word on whether leaflets will be printed and distributed containing the following advice from a 16 year career cop who is now in charge of the new National Retail Investigation Support Unit:

“We know this from speaking to offenders, that if they’re greeted at the door it has a large deterrent effect on them

I don’t think this is convincing the actual dairy owners:

Meanwhile, among retailers, another slaying of one of their own cuts deep.

Christchurch dairy owner Mukesh Patel has decided to shut his dairy and leave the country entirely.

We are not here to be killed. We will probably go back home.”

The Kiwi corner dairy is no longer a safe or successful option.

The following is from some famous TV series. Somehow it feels more real than all of the above.

Written by Tom Hunter

November 26, 2022 at 1:27 pm

Why I Hate White Ribbon Day

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Today (25 November) is White Ribbon Day. The aim of the day / campaign is to “flip the script of ‘boys will be boys’… We can all play a part in teaching boys to be caring, supportive, ethical… and reduce the amount of family violence in our community.”

The message is clear – domestic violence is committed by men against women.

Except for my ex-wife.

She was a very disturbed individual. What I thought was liveliness before we engaged (and was attracted to) turned out to be deep-seated emotional problems. I strongly suspect she was abused when she was a child, lending weight to the observation that abused people often go on to inflict abuse.

Which for me, involved being strangled, kicked, punched, scratched and yelled at on a nightmarishly frequent basis.

I never hit back. I would flee the house – I slept in my car, I slept in the office, I stayed at a motel. I never hit back.

I always hoped she’d get better. She’d always regret it afterwards, though not without a heavy dose of blaming me for provoking her. But she had a way of manipulating everybody around her to make me the enemy. After we (finally) split up for good, her mother emailed me blaming me for setting her off, and that she couldn’t be blamed for the violence. I recall one time I finally got her to agree to go to a psychologist. She was careful to control the narrative there, and said how “the marriage was violent.” The psychologist turned to me and made it clear to me how unacceptable that was. He didn’t have an answer when I told him I wasn’t the violent one.

I became a shell of a man. I was a shadow of my former self. The abuse and the victim-blaming was too much for me. I was too ashamed to tell my friends and family until far too late. I was certainly too embarrassed to tell the police, as well as fearful of how she would manipulate them and no doubt blame me for it.

White Ribbon carry on the victim blaming. They do not speak for me as someone who has suffered (serious) domestic violence, blaming me as a man and making the worst categorisations and generalisations possible. Look at this so-called ‘factsheet’ for example:

Most men do not use violence against women. Although family violence can be prevalent in any and all communities, violence by men is often the most serious and lethal type of family violence in New Zealand, and the victims are predominantly women and children.

I call bullshit on that. Bullshit because I know what it felt like to have my wife’s hands around my throat until I nearly passed out. Bullshit because I know what it is like to be felled by a swinging left hook and then kicked in the stomach. Bullshit because research consistently finds that women in heterosexual relationships tend to perpetuate violence against intimate partners at least as often as men:

According to the CDC, one in seven men in the US has been the victim of physical abuse by an intimate partner in his lifetime, and one in 10 men has experienced rape, physical violence, and stalking by an intimate partner. Recent data from the Office for National Statistics points out that of every three reported IPV cases in the UK, two victims are female, and one is male. These numbers may even be gross underestimations considering male victims of domestic abuse are less likely to view abuse as a crime and usually don’t report it to friends or the police.

I know that there are far too many feral men out there living out the ‘Jake the Muss’ stereotype. I have no tolerance for domestic violence, there is never any excuse. There is far too much of it in NZ.

But the White Ribbon Campaign gets it wrong by being so one sided and factually wrong. Their social engineering will not decrease how many ferals beat their wives / partners, nor how many disturbed women go psycho on their men. I hate 25 November where I am told I’m part of the problem of domestic violence.

I am thankfully well shod of my ex wife. Despite never holding down a job because she kept getting fired or let go because of the constant conflict she brought to the workplace, I still had to pay her half my life savings and buy her out of the house as part of the divorce. That sucked. At least I am rid of her and her violence. But what I will never be rid of is the emotional scars from years of being abused.

White Ribbon unpicks those scars. My wife was violent towards me because (in her warped mind) I was a threat to her and I set her off. White Ribbon agrees with her that as a women she can’t ever be to blame, I’m the problem because I’m a man.

I hate the White Ribbon campaign and I hate White Ribbon Day.

Written by Major Star

November 25, 2022 at 9:22 am

Desert and weed

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If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there’d be a shortage of sand. – Milton Freidman

For forty years or more drug reformers, mainly Libertarians and Left-wingers, with a handful of right-wingers in the mix, have argued that the key to reducing and perhaps even eliminating drug crime is to simply make many drugs legal.

The argument is that if the drugs were made legal to grow or make, and sell, then criminals would be deprived of a massive source of revenue because the massive increase in production would greatly reduce the price of the drugs. Hence crime would be greatly reduced. The resulting costs of healthcare for drug addicts is argued to be a small proportion of the current crime cost and the government could now tax the product, producing new streams of tax revenue.

The suggested starting point for deregulation is Marijuana (Cannabis, Weed(US), Dope (NZ), “MJ”, Mary Jane, etc, etc), since it is – arguably – less dangerous to users in terms of addiction and general health effects.

A number of countries have done this, starting in Europe and the effects so far seem to be neither as good nor as bad as each side had argued. A handful of US States have also done this, starting with California (of course) and in their case there has been at least one unexpected outcome:

California has yet to see its black-market disappear, however. In fact, illegal growing and selling of pot have increased so rapidly in the past six years that earlier this month, Sacramento vastly expanded the state’s war on pot by taking a decades-old seasonal commission designed to curb illegal growing and turning it into a full-time, multi-agency task force with the job of snuffing out a booming black market. 

Their neighbour and ideological soulmate, Oregon, has been suffering the same problem – including gun battles between rival growers.

So why is this happening, the exact opposite of what was promised by reformers? One word: government, first via farming regulations…

In California, for instance, growers have tried to evade the environmental regulations that all farms must observe, including ones on water usage. Investigators have found miles of complex, illegal irrigation systems in the state’s national forests, diverting hundreds of thousands of gallons of water daily to illegal farms, as streams run dry.

… and taxation:

“Californians just legalized cannabis in 2016. We’ve had legal sales for three years, and the main driver of these price increases is that local cities can set a local business tax rate for cannabis. 

That’s anywhere from zero to 15% of gross receipts.  … And just for comparison, Oakland’s cannabis taxes are 417 times higher than Oakland’s taxes on guns and ammo business. And in Los Angeles, the marijuana taxes on businesses are 2,808 times higher than the business taxes on a check cashing or a payday lender.”

I do have to laugh. The reformers argued that this would be a source of tax revenue, but as usual they forgot that the State’s appetite for tax revenue is rapacious and bottomless. At least the Californian Cannabis Cultivation Tax is being eliminated after it became clear that it would likely kill the newly legalised industry.

You’d like to think that some broader lessons about tax and its effects on business would be learned here – but you would be wrong. Drug reformers are now focusing on a Federal decriminalisation across all states, claiming that these problems are being caused by those states who have not yet followed California and Oregon.

Incidentally a former Waikato dairy farmer, John Lord, has become one of the largest legal drug dealers in the United States via his ownership of Colorado cannabis dispensary chain LivWell:

The industry is highly regulated in Colorado, and based on rules around the sale of alcohol. It is overseen by the Marijuana Enforcement Division, a branch of the Department of Revenue.

Written by Tom Hunter

November 23, 2022 at 11:41 am

The GOP strikes back

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In the same way that Leftists love shooting people when they can’t shoot back, they also love having the powers of investigation in their hands only.

Hence the hair-on-fire efforts on Trump, starting with the announcement by Merrick Garland, head of the Department of Justice, of a “Special Prosecutor Counsel” who’ll be taking another look at the claims that Trump stole precious security documents on his way out of the White House, as well as being involved in the great Jan 6 “Insurrection”.

The person chosen as the Special Prosecutor Counsel has an interesting history:

Smith led the corrupt prosecution of former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell. The DOJ went to such absurd lengths to broaden the federal bribery statute to target the Republican politician that the Supreme Court eventually overturned the conviction.

“According to Mr. Pilger, the Justice Department convened a meeting with former IRS official Lois Lerner in October 2010 to discuss how the IRS could assist in the criminal enforcement of campaign-finance laws against politically active nonprofits,” the committee wrote in a 2014 letter to DOJ. “This meeting was arranged at the direction of Public Integrity Section Chief Jack Smith.”

In case you’re wondering, Mr Smith was appointed as the “Public Integrity Section Chief” after his case against the GOP Governor was quashed by the Supreme Court. More failing upwards in US government. Lerner was forced to resign but she not only did not face jail time or a fine but kept her pension.

Word is that the Manhattan DA is also trying to revive the dead investigation of Trump’s “hush money” payment to Stormy Daniels:

Under Bragg’s predecessor, the district attorney’s office rejected the idea of focusing a case solely on the hush money, concluding, with the help of outside legal experts, that it would hinge on a largely untested and therefore risky legal theory. And if Bragg were to charge Trump without uncovering any new evidence or relying on a more conventional theory, he would risk having a judge or appellate court throw out the case.

Which was why Bragg booted the case when he became the DA. I guess the pressure was too much. And then these people wonder why public trust in institutions is going down. Fox News must be more powerful than I thought?

But the good news (sort of) is that with the House now won the GOP has gained it’s own powers of investigation, and it would appear that after the last few years of lawfare bloodletting they’ve developed a spine – or perhaps they’ve just realised that if they don’t use these weapons against the Democrats they’ll be at the mercy of the latter forever, and there is no mercy on the Left.

Jordan and Republicans have sought information on the FBI’s raid of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, alleged FISA abuse, information on domestic violent extremism cases, the Justice Department’s efforts to monitor parents at school board meetings and label them as domestic terrorists, among other issues.

Basically these are the issues they’re going after:

Moreover, they’re going after the people responsible:

  • Merrick Garland (DOJ head)
  • Christopher Wray (FBI)
  • Miguel Cardona (Education)
  • Alejandro Mayorkas (DHS) head

In the wake of the Democrat’s use of police to enforce their subpoena power, with numerous Trump supporters being arrested, even if only temporarily, I appreciated the following:

Jordan is warning both Garland and Wray that if the requests “remain outstanding” at the beginning of the next Congress, the committee “may be forced to resort to compulsory process to obtain the material we require.”

In other words there may not be a repeat of the treatment given to Obama’s Attorney General, Eric Holder, some years ago when he refused to supply information to a Congressional investigation, found himself held in contempt on a bi-partisan vote – and …. nothing further happened. Holder effectively told Congress to go fuck themselves and laughed his way to a prosperous future outside of government at the end of Obama’s administration.

Those days may be over, but again we’ll see if The Stupid Party have learned anything or whether they’re going to just roll over and have double standards shoved up them forevermore.

Having said that I don’t expect any criminal charges to emerge from all this, any more than I do from the Trump stuff. As much as corruption and breaches of the law may have occurred the fact is that this is all political, with each side using the facts uncovered to win political points and put their opponents in a corner that makes their election tougher.

Despite some calls from the usual suspects about how these investigations may hurt the GOP…

In short: How do you know when James Comer (R) is lying? Well, if his lips are moving, it’s a sure bet.

… there’s no evidence that they ever hurt the investigating party. Two years after the Clinton impeachment (which I did not agree with) the GOP won the Presidency and Congressional investigations did not hurt the Democrats in 2008, nor the GOP in 2014 and 2016, nor the Democrats this year.

In fact, given the Democrats will be increasingly desperate to move Joe on and have him not run in 2024, they may even secretly welcome the Hunter Biden “revelations”. When even their good friends in the MSM begin to “discover” things about the Biden’s it’s an evil portent for the First Family – and no Twitter to cover it up this time which none other than CBS has declared to be “safe” for them to return to.

Written by Tom Hunter

November 22, 2022 at 9:11 am

Disband the Supreme Court

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Time for the Supreme Court to go:

Supreme Court rules in favour of ‘Make It 16’ case to lower voting age

There was never any good reason to replace the Privy Council with this vanity project of Helen Clark and Margaret Wilson.

Unlike the US Supreme Court, which has a modicum of accountability in that the elected representatives of the people appoint who sits on that bench, our Supreme Court has no accountability, meaning it is very dangerous should the judges turn out to be power-hungry activists. (Yes, yes, I know that in the US the judges are power hungry activists too. And I don’t want us to copy their constitutional arrangements. But at least when you vote in a senator or president, you also effectively vote in the bench, meaning the voters ultimately decide to put in who they want).

Our highest court’s bench is clearly full of left-wing power hungry activists, telling us that not letting children vote in elections is against the bill of rights! If anything, 18 years is too young to vote – we should raise it to at least 21!!!!

It is up to Parliament to decide things like what the voting age should be. Not unelected, unaccountable elites from inner city Wellington.

In addition to this affront to democracy, this court also effectively overruled the Three Strikes legislation and made an extraordinary finding in the Peter Ellis appeal that Maori customs are now to be elevated alongside Common Law. As well-respected laywer Anthony Willy puts it:

In a democracy politicians come and go at the whim of the electorate ( in the case of the present lot the sooner the better). Judges do not. They are appointed for a fixed term and frequently sit beyond that expiry date. One of the judges in the Ellis case is five years beyond the fixed term. Once appointed it is for all practical purposes impossible to remove a judge from office. The trade-off for this unique job security is that Judges confine themselves to applying the law to the facts of the cases that come before them. It is for that reason that Judges used to be selected from those lawyers who had devoted their careers to the practice of the law in the courts and the day-to-day exercise of the common law. That is no longer the case.

I do not like the direction that our elites are taking us, nor do I like the stealthiness and underhanded manner they are subverting our democracy.

Written by Major Star

November 21, 2022 at 11:25 am

The Total, Utter and Complete Backdown on Hate Speech Legislation

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I was certain that this Labour Government was going to foist Hate Speech laws on us. There were six specific proposals:

  1. Increase the number groups protected under the Human Rights Act, from the status quo protecting groups based on their “colour, race or ethnic or national origins” to also include “sex, gender (including gender identity), religious belief, disability or sexual orientation.”
  2. Introduce a new offence in the Crimes Act so that hatred is specifically a crime (in place of current laws which merely forbid intentionally inciting racial disharmony).
  3. Make the crime of being a hateful bigot punishable by three years imprisonment or a fine of up to $50,000.
  4. If the second proposal was enacted (the criminal offence), at the same time beef up the Human Rights Act so that complaints may be made about hatred under the Human Rights Act (grossly empowering the Human Rights Commission)
  5. Make it illegal to incite others to be hateful bigots.
  6. Add to the grounds of discrimination in the Human Rights Act to clarify that trans, gender diverse and intersex people are protected from discrimination.

It was a huge overreach and deeply unpopular with ordinary NZers. The Free Speech Union mounted a very successful campaign against it. It made criminals of conservative religious NZers, ironically including any Muslim in NZ who held to orthodox Muslim beliefs about gender and sexuality.

The government is completely backing down from all of these changes – don’t believe anything that says otherwise! The one minor change they are making is a very watered down version of the first proposal, to simply add religious belief as a protected group in the HRA.

This is a complete 180 degree U-turn. The poorly drafted proposals, which failed to properly define hatred and allowed for civil and criminal proceedings against an alarmingly broad definition of discrimination, would have been ruinous for social and religous cohesion in NZ. Conservative churches (and mosques and temples) would have suddenly been guilty of hatred and hate speech if they dared to preach what they have believed for literally thousands of years.

The new proposal specifically protects those churches (and mosques and temples) from the woke fascists who would have been leading the charge against them!!!! Tyrants such as Shaneel Lal, David Farrier (and the entire Stuff propaganda department…), the Marxist-Pagan cult, and Shaneel Lal (again) were licking their lips with the opportunity to criminalise hateful bigots like me.

The reaction from the fascist left is furious – how dare the government not just allow but actually protect religious groups to hold religious views!

The truth is, Faafoi was grossly incompetent when he let activist bureaucrats from the Ministry of Justice and the Human Rights Commission dream up such far-reaching and poorly thought-out proposals, which had severe third and fourth order effects on the rights of New Zealanders to hold and express orthodox views. Kiri Allan has cleaned this up admirably by not only ditching the proposals, but actually reversing them to specifically protect religious groups in NZ.

The fact the Human Rights Commission is saying that the new changes are “very disappointing” is an excellent indication to me that this is a good proposal!

True to form though, this isn’t the last of it. The government is tasking the Law Commission to undertake a review, opening up the possibility for another attempt in a year or two. Clearly the polling is telling them to hold off before the election…

Written by Major Star

November 20, 2022 at 1:43 pm

An appeal to those who still believe

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…. in law and order and justice and the agents who impose such.

As opposed to those Americans who don’t give a shit about such things except as a way of gaining political advantage and who very much believe in political revenge and love double standards.

The number of such Americans who believe the latter now number in the millions at least, and those numbers are likely increasing rapidly every day as America polarises further and begins to split (Austin has been invaded by Texas).

The thing is that The Powers That Be (TPTB) in Washington D.C. may be under the strange impression that those numbers are increasing only on their side and that their political opponents are mere chumps who still believe in the honesty and decency of the Department of Justice and the FBI and can thus by taken advantage of (admittedly this may be the case for The Stupid Party aka the GOP). It’s as if TPTB think tens of millions of GOP voters are unaware of the plight of the Jan 6 prisoners, many of whom still languish in jail awaiting trial on charges of stuff like trespassing – and whose ranks we now know were infiltrated with more than a few undercover FBI agents (which begs the question of why the FBI did not prevent Jan 6 from happening?)

Garland as much as admits that this is about stopping Trump running for President.

No special prosecutor for Hunter Biden, naturally!

I think TPTB are wrong, but clearly it’s going to take a crisis to make them realise that there are two sides to this game they’re playing. They think they can keep pushing the system to the edge because it’ll never break or if it does, it won’t break against them.

Ted Cruz Hit By Thrown Missile, Media Snarks and Reminds Readers that Cruz Is Hated and Had It Coming

Since Dobbs Decision Leak, Violence Against Pro-Lifers Was Over 22 Times That Against Pro-Choicers

Perhaps the plan of the Democrat Party is to start a Civil War in the USA? They’ve done it before.

In the meantime the Washington Post and a few of the other usual MSM suspects, recently supplied their TDS readers with a bit of a shock about those “nuclear secrets” Trump had stashed away – but only after the Mid-Term elections were out of the way:

Federal agents and prosecutors have come to believe former president Donald Trump’s motive for allegedly taking and keeping classified documents was largely his ego and a desire to hold on to the materials as trophies or mementos, according to people familiar with the matter.

That review has not found any apparent business advantage to the types of classified information in Trump’s possession, these people said. FBI interviews with witnesses so far, they said, also do not point to any nefarious effort by Trump to leverage, sell or use the government secrets. Instead, the former president seemed motivated by a more basic desire not to give up what he believed was his property, these people said.

Another one bites the dust. But there were several other similar stories that dropped after the Mid-Terms:

  • California goes from budget surplus to deficit.
  • Rudy Giuliani cleared after a two-year “investigation” of foreign lobbying.
  • Biden’s student loan forgiveness killed in court (what a surprise)

The stunt being repeatedly played here is to “investigate” and perhaps even “indict” because those will play and play and play in the pages of the likes of the Washington Post for the next two years and get TDS sufferers all stirred up and passionate to vote against Trump – followed by the same disappointing news that has followed every other one of these “bombshells” for six years now.

Written by Tom Hunter

November 19, 2022 at 12:19 pm

National wants a ‘Young Offender Military Academy’

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National wants to bring in a ‘Young Offender Military Academy’ in response to ferals and delinquents running amok.

National leader Christopher Luxon has announced a major crackdown on young offenders with a new policy including youth offender military-style camps and a serious offender category for those as young as 10…

National will establish a youth offender military academy that will be delivered by the New Zealand Defence Force and other community providers.

They would target young people aged 15 – 17 years old who could be ordered to attend by the courts for 12 months.

“The whole point is that these youth offender military academy’s are going to be a total circuit breaker. They are there to provide intense structured programs including schooling, mentoring, drug and alcohol treatment but in a very, very disciplined environment.”

I have some questions about this:

  1. With what resources will the NZDF be expected to do this?
  2. Where will this be done? (Is the National Party aware of how dilapidated Waiouru Military Camp is, amongst all the other camps and bases?)
  3. Where will the ferals go after 12 months with the NZDF? What’s to stop them going straight back to where they came from?

I suspect there is some nostalgia about the Regular Force Cadet School, in operation until 1991. The RF Cadet School wasn’t for ferals or delinquents, but it was able to be a pathway taken before one became a feral. A good case in point is the comparison between Ron Mark and his brother Tui. Ron was lucky enough to be one of the about 120 or so teenagers accepted each year into ‘the club’, but alas Tui was not. Ron had a successful career in the NZ Army as a vehicle mechanic, then an officer in the Royal New Zealand and Electrical Engineers, before serving in the Oman forces and becoming an MP and cabinet minister. Tui joined a gang and led a life of crime and delinquency:

But what National are proposing is not RF cadet school. It is basically a military borstal for a year. I’m sceptical that it’ll be a successful circuit breaker for a teenager who has already embarked on a life of crime, gangs and drugs.

I’d also like to see some policy from National about how to rebuild the NZDF to do its core job before adding more tasks to the NZDF, such as parenting feral sh!theads.


It’s a rehash of Sir Bill English’s policy from 2017 which was never implemented:

Speaking to Morning Report today, Mr English denied the new scheme would be a boot camp, calling it an “intensive wrap-around service, a junior military academy”.

“There is one group of 20 of these kids who have 800 offences, we’re not talking about wayward youth getting a short sharp shock.”

He said the teenagers had committed serious crimes, including rape, aggravated robbery and murder, but could not say if they would receive any weapons training from the army while in the programme.

“It’s going to be run by the army, it will include literacy, numeracy and a focus on health, a focus on activity and discipline and character.

“It’s about providing an alternative to prison, it’s not an employment scheme, it’s not an alternative to going to school, it’s an alternative to prison, or youth justice facilities. It’s 12 months, and it includes the wrap-round services that we do see working.”

Mr English said the National Party was taking the view that the culture of the army was the right one to help the young people.

If National want to convince people (especially me!) that this is a good policy, they’ll need to counter Sir Peter Gluckman’s conclusion in 2018 that “boot camps do not work” and that the NZDF will have sufficient resources for this in addition to their core roles.

Written by Major Star

November 17, 2022 at 6:02 pm