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One of the strengths of Kiwiblog is DPF’s want to let those holding a contrary opinion to what might be considered right wing orthodoxy to express their view notwithstanding the fact that in doing so it is likely to result in the more flinty eyed among us dumping on him for betraying conservative values.

And so it is that Kiwiblog featured a post here by Murray Gibb, sometime CE of Water NZ, arguing the case for Three Waters. It is a long article and worth a read but the final paragraph stands out … ‘There is one area where the government has completely mucked up with its proposals, and that is in governance. Having 50 percent of Board members being appointed by Iwi is just simply nonsense. Tribal governance systems have no place in modern capitalist democracies ….‘.

Amen and double Amen to that.

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November 30, 2021 at 9:17 pm

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A Scholar of the Cultural Revolution on the USA

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I have not watched the whole interview, but clearly in this section the PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) interviewer was fishing for a desired response from the interviewee.

She got something very unexpected from Ai Weiwei, a Chinese artist and political activist who is a scholar on authoritarianism, specifically dealing with Mao’s cultural revolution.

A “CUT THE MIKE” moment.

He points out that to be authoritarian requires more than sounding off on Twitter and saying stuff that sounds authoritarian. You need to be supported by a system, and that system – specifically the Federal Administrative State – rejected Trump’s demands but fully accepts Biden’s.

Yet that is also supported by too many ordinary people, such as David Farrar over at Kiwiblog, who thumped the table and loudly denounced Trump’s demands for some of his enemies to be investigated, yet is completely silent about things like the FBI and DOJ going after the parents of school kids as “domestic terrorists”.

But it’s what Weiwei goes to say next that should be getting the attention of a lot of people. He claims that the United States is actually in an authoritarian moment, just not in the way the Left believes. Instead, he brings up the fact that people unifying around certain “political correct” ideas denotes a “dangerous” trend.

Those on the left desperately want everything they oppose to be “authoritarian.” That’s why you get constant, irrational claims about their need to “save democracy.” Yet the left’s attempts to erase history and suppress “improper” speech are actually the hallmarks of authoritarianism as evidenced by Mao’s Cultural Revolution, something Weiwei is very familiar with.

What brings about tyranny is a societal shift that tears down the past and viciously dictates the future via threats of financial ruin and violence. It is not the Right that wants to destroy statues of Thomas Jefferson and put in place “hate speech” laws. Instead, it is the left that forces people from their jobs for wrong-think while insisting that it’s acceptable to “punch” Nazis. And surprise, everyone they don’t like is a Nazi.

Between this guy and the comments about US universities made by North Korean defector, Yeonmi Park, after graduating from Columbia University – “Even North Korea is not this nuts” – you’d think the Left would pause.

But they won’t. They can’t.

Written by Tom Hunter

November 18, 2021 at 6:00 am

A dubious honour

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One of my favourite films is the wonderful 1988 movie Bull Durham.

While Bull Durham is about minor league baseball, it’s also about romance, sex, poetry, metaphysics, the tough business of baseball and the clash between talent and brains.

Anyway, there’s a scene where Annie Savoy (played by the then very hot Susan Sarandon) tells player “Crash” Davis (played by Kevin Costner, who for once is also sexy), that she has looked up his Minor League details:

“I looked up your records– You’ve hit 227 home runs in the minors. That’s great!

Don’t tell anybody.

Why not? If you hit twenty homers this year you’ll be the all time minor league champ! The record’s 246.

247 home runs in the minors would be a dubious honor.

To that end it would appear that something similar has happened to me over at Kiwiblog, courtesy of this comment on Biden’s Afghan disaster, and some train-spotter named Steve Todd:

Congratulations on putting up Kiwiblog’s 3,000,000th comment, Tom.

Not sure if I’ll get a prize for this or not. I wonder who did the 1,000,000th and 2,000,000 comments?

BTW, since we’re largely trapped in our homes you might want to stream or otherwise watch the movie. You don’t have to know much about baseball to enjoy it as both Crash and Annie try to teach rookie pitcher Ebby Calvin “Nuke” LaLoosh about baseball (Crash) and sex (Annie). Two quotes should suffice.

“Y’see there’s a certain amount of “life-wisdom” I give these boys. I can expand their minds. Sometimes when I’ve got a ballplayer alone I’ll just read Emily Dickinson or Walt Whitman to him. And the guys are so sweet, they always stay and listen.

Of course a guy will listen to anything if he thinks it’s foreplay.”

Or this scene where Crash strongly disagrees with an umpire’s call at home plate and gets chucked out of the game, all while Annie and her friend listen on the radio to the Bull’s official announcer describing events:

Teddy on the radio:
I’ve never seen Crash so angry and frankly, Bull fans, he used a certain word that’s a “no-no” with umpires.”

Crash musta called the guy a cocksucker.

Mmm…. God, he’s so romantic.

Written by Tom Hunter

August 23, 2021 at 4:37 pm

Kiwiblog and Jane Austen

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Blog comments, and comments on more modern Social Media sites, are well known for being perpetually grumpy, even angry, with the latter emotion at full tilt on FaceTwit.

So it’s always a pleasure when you randomly encounter comments that are fun, even if they take the mickey out of other commentators.

Such a thing happened on Kiwiblog the other day as DPF finally caught up with the story of the North Korean defector, Yeonmi Park, in the US: “Even North Korea is not this nuts”. He got there because the NZ Herald covered the story with its usual copy and paste from a US MSM source (yes, DPF still feeds clicks to these bastards).

One of the comments Park made was about her love of Jane Austen and the response she got:

During her orientation, for instance, a staff member scolded her for liking classic literaturesuch as the writings of Jane Austen.

“I said ‘I love those books.’ I thought it was a good thing,” Park said of her orientation. “Then she said, ‘Did you know those writers had a colonial mindset? They were racists and bigots and are subconsciously brainwashing you.’”

In the comments section one long-time commentator, “MikenMildAgain” had some fun with this by parodying the famous opening lines of Pride and Prejudice:

Well, she likes Jane Austen, so perhaps it is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single student in possession of a university education, must be in want of a grievance.

Which I have to say was quite clever. MMA has been there for years and specialises in entertaining himself by dropping ten to twenty comments each day, most of which are pure snark. A few years ago when a comment counter still existed there I did some train spotting on him that showed he had exceeded the notorious Pete George with some 20,000 KB comments in just a few years. MMA is probably at 60,000 by now.

Some of that has been regularly directed at another commentator who posts under her own name; Maggy Wassilieff, a retired biological scientist who incurs MMA’s wrathful snark because she doesn’t buy into a lot of the AGW Crisis claims. She challenged MMA to try the opening lines of Persuasion instead but he declined, saying it was too long: you can read the original lines at that link.

Maggy’s response was a hit right between the eyes:

MMA of Manor Park, Lower Hutt, was a man who, for his own amusement, never ventured into social media but for Kiwiblog; there he found occupation for his idle days, and consolation in his distressed ones; there his faculties were roused into admiration and respect by contemplating the smears and abuses of his earliest comments; there any unwelcome sensations, arising from long-lost arguments changed naturally into pity and contempt as he read through his almost endless screes of bile from bygone days; and there, if every other comment were powerless, he could read his own history with an interest that never failed.

Written by Tom Hunter

June 23, 2021 at 11:17 am

History never repeats?

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Oh yes it bloody well does, and with more than rhyming Mr Twain.

In The Vet’s post the other day, What Has Louisa Wall Done To Offend?, he made the point that her being challenged for her seat from within the Labour Party was a mystery given that she ticks so many boxes for them: Maori, Female, Lesbian, smart, high achiever in sport, academia and now politics…

Amidst much discussion some points were made about Chris Trotter’s constant raging against the Identity Politics Warriors like Wall messing up his beloved Class Warfare purity that he thinks Labour should return to. I was reminded of a piece of satire that Danyl McLauchlan wrote a few years ago on his old blog, The DimPost. Once he started writing serious stuff for places like The Spinoff he made his blog private, but thanks to The Wayback Machine, a commentator’s suggestion, and more searching than I usually care to do, I found it: Chris Trotter on Party Central (2010):

So “Party Central” is no longer central to the party that is central to the party at the centre of our party politics. 

Am I the only Kiwi who experiences tightness in my jaw and a numb feeling in my left-arm when I contemplate the disarray that has befallen Auckland governance?

we have all supped from the golden poison chalice of satanic robot run regional and local government only to find ourselves regaining conciousness yet again in our neighbour’s toolshed with our clothes drenched in urine.

Danyl really should try satire again, although it may be that he can find no one to pay for it. But it was the next section that I remembered the best:

It was the radical right-wing feminist government of William Massey that spread open the labile pink floodgates of change and swept away the egalitarian order in a wave of capitalist frenzy, separatist Maori entitlement and so-called-women who threaten to press charges because that is what their liberal puppetmasters at our elitist universities have brainwashed them to do. 

Like most real New Zealanders I yearn for the days when our great little country was ruled by stocky, moustached trade-unionists but I fear that those days are gone forever, swept away by a great wave that swept everything away like a wave.

During my history search I found a 2014 article by Trotter advocating pretty much the treatment that Wall is getting, Labour’s Caucus Still In Charge, where he admiringly quotes Matt McCarten from 1988:

“So we should call a special conference of the party and expel them … The Labour Party made a mistake selecting these people so sack them. Throw them out and let them stand against us. They’ll lose and the Labour Party can rebuild itself.”

To be fair, Chris appears to now be in total thrall to “the labile pink floodgates of change“. Funny how  winning elections and obtaining a measure of power can do that.

Speaking of which, during my search I also found an old comment of mine from Kiwiblog in 2011, in a thread which dealt with us losing people to a more successful Australia and DPF’s lament that we need to boost productivity and lift wages.

Shorter message: Vote for us because we suck less than the other guys.

Actually that’s the entire National message as NZ slowly reverses into the 21st century. And it’s an effective one as they undoubtedly know; the smug, cynical response being who else are you going to vote for? 

And they’re correct.

As far as the media coverage is concerned I say to all lefties, welcome to our world circa 2000-2005. The shallow, pathetic coverage of stories combined with gushing over various aspects of [PM Key] is really very little different than in Clark’s time. Sure, there are the blogs but they aren’t there yet in supporting a narrative the way the old MSM still can. 

But don’t worry. National and Key will tire sooner or later, Labour will find some “new” material as candidates and even a fresh leader, the pendulum will swing and you will find yourselves benefiting from exactly the same uselessness of media coverage. 

Yeah. History repeats all right.

Written by Tom Hunter

May 26, 2020 at 12:00 pm

More tiresome China Bashing

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And this time it’s not me but certainly saves me the trouble of compiling the same information, which I’d been doing.

Over on Kiwiblog, former Labour activist turned Rightie, “Kiwi In America”, who now lives in the USA, has written a lengthy and detailed timeline of how China screwed up on the Wuhan Flu virus: Coronavirus and China.

Some of what is there was also covered in my piece a few weeks ago, Trump was right about China, although that focused as much on what China had been doing before this disaster broke out.

Anyway, the article at Kiwiblog is well worth your time to read and absorb with regard for what it may mean for New Zealand. I’ll leave you with this summary from towards the end of the article:

I don’t know what will happen at a deeper and more granular level in NZ (and other US allies) but the days of China’s almost free reign to corrupt university faculties, infiltrate research institutions, spy on military installations and rob intellectual property blind will be over in the US. 

The US will implement a post 9/11 revamp of all of its military, academic and industrial intelligence capabilities to shut China out. The sons and daughters of China’s elite will not get student visas with as much ease, the back door ways that China acquired US companies will be abruptly shut down, the Confucius Institutes on campuses will be gradually closed and Chinese academic exchanges will be rigorously scrutinised. 

When you multiply the supply chain readjustments across many large companies across the globe, add any punitive tariffs the US may now impose and the compulsory repatriation of medical/pharmaceutical production to the cascade of law suits from US States that will rain down on China, they are in for a world of hurt economically.

Between the bank and the dairy company over the last month I’ve gone back and forward in budgeting between $6.30 and $5.30/kg payout.

I think I’ll set it at $5.00 and cut spending accordingly.

Written by Tom Hunter

May 21, 2020 at 7:19 am

David Farrar is awfully triumphant!

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Over on Kiwiblog, David Farrar gloats:

Winston lawsuit fails entirely

My God. How exciting. The National Party proves triumphant.

In all honesty why is DPF gloating? Why are any of us gloating over this farce?

Winston doesn’t care. He’s been through shit like this many times before. It’s like Trump waking up to people hating his guts, the MSM filled with denunciations of his awful character, lawsuits and being under investigation for everything by a Congress led by his political enemies.

A day ending in “Y”.

Beyond everything else is the simple fact that when he was being buried by Jacindamania in 2017 he found an out in his classic style:

  • Dirty work behind the scenes.
  • By the National Party.
  • And their rich cronies frightened of Brave Winston.
  • And bureaucrats frightened of Brave Winston.
  • He’s a victim…

… and yada, yada, yada.


Media coverage!

That growly voice on RNZ and every other media channel that would have him.

Oxygen for a dying campaign, leader and Party.

And a few months later? A wonderful coalition government built by Winston, who knows his marks, especially 37 year old woman with little or no experience in life. And a fork in the eye of the old enemy, National, especially English, Joyce, and all else who sail in her and got him booted in the early 90’s and then trashed him as the scum of the earth in 2008.

Deputy Prime Minister – and all the whiskey, money, perks and privileges you can get.


For the umpteenth time.

You think Winston felt this terrible blow in court? That he’s wounded perhaps?

Winston probably laughed his ass off on the phone with Henry, cracked another excellent Red, and settled down for a quiet few hours fishing…

La Dolce Vita
… with something to admire that is of good breeding, good looking, and tax deductible to boot.

“For what do we live, but to make sport for our neighbors, and laugh at them in our turn?

And then people wonder why I am both cynical about politics and humoured by it.

Written by Tom Hunter

April 20, 2020 at 11:59 am

Unethical – But Not Unexpected

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I have taken this from Kiwiblog because I believe the unethical actions of the Justice Minister and his Coalition colleagues needs maximum exposure. Most of the content comes from a facebook post by Nick Smith and I make no apologies for this `cut and paste’.

`Govt rushing through prisoner voting during the pandemicNick Smith facebooked:

Today blowing whistle on Govt rushing law change to give prisoners vote while country in lockdown. I do not like being critical at a time when we need national unity to fight Covid-19 but this is wrong.

The Electoral ( Sentenced Prisoners) Amendment Bill got its first reading on 18th March and Justice Select Committee process of six months reduced by Govt to less than three months. Justice Minister Little last week insisted bill be progressed during lockdown and refused to support any extension. He has told committee that officials would not be able to provide normal quality of departmental report nor fully respond to committee questions, but still wants it done fast. Justice Committee Chair, Labour MP, Meka Whaitiri, has used powers to set closure date for submissions and advised committee she intends hearing submissions by video conference week of 13 April while nation still in lockdown and MPs confined to their homes. Committee is 4Lab/4Nat. She has overridden our objections at 3 video conf of Chair and Deputy(me).

How is this rushed law making while nation is in lockdown and Parliament adjourned, consistent with PMs assurance that only urgent matters would be progressed ? How is it consistent for Justice Select Committee to be continuing such work when all courts are suspended except for most urgent of cases ? Why is Justice Select Committee looking to defer other two bills on sexual voilence and protection of emergency responders, but rush prisoner voting ? Labour is saying ensuring fairer trials for rape victims and protecting emergency workers is not a priority but prisoners voting is ! If prisoner voting was such an urgent issue, why did govt not include it in its three other electoral amendment bills passed this term of parliament ?

When the rights of 4 million plus law abiding NZers are being curtailed by being confined to home, thousands of businesses banned from trading and community papers prohibited from publishing, why is the most important human rights issue prisoners’ voting rights rather than getting covid-19 under control so we can wind back lockdown ? How can NZers and interested organisations who object to this law change (84% opposed it in Newshub poll last August) express this in lockdown when they can’t meet and when protests are a prohibited activity ?

Why, when in an unprecedented crisis in which MPs are buried in serious constituency issues like: -ensuring people get Covid-19 tests when needed, -getting workers access to PPE, -finding specialist food for children, -getting shopping of essentials for seniors, -sorting out what are essential businesses, -getting access to public funding for families and businesses to survive, should we be focused on prisoners voting rights ? (I have never been as busy in 30 years of working as a constituency MP)

Labour is putting their narrow political interests of trying to get a few thousand more votes at next election ahead of the right priorities for NZ at this time. It follows a unfortunate pattern of partisan electoral law changes and rushed changes. Electoral Bills passed this term include giving party leaders power to dismiss MPs, shifting power to write ref qs at elections from parl to cab and 24 hr rushed foreign donations change that was full of holes.
,br />I do not support this bill that gives vote to prisoners sentenced to less than 3 years – others would still not be allowed to vote. You have to do something pretty bad in NZ to be sent to prison. It is one of liberties you lose when you break society’s agreed rules. Prisoners do not vote in similar democracies like UK & Australia. In many US states you lose right to vote if sent to prison for ever, which I disagree with. Nats position is when you have done time, your rights should be fully restored. But issue here is rushing law through under emergency. The law in NZ has for most of our history not allowed prisoners to vote but has toed and froed over last few decades. Law has switched around most recently in 2010 from a members bill by Paul Quinn. This bill went through full process of six months select committee and no urgency/extended hours. Imagine the uproar if Nats had rushed law to remove prisoners voting, let alone doing so during a national emergency and lockdown.

My bigger worry is that if this is how Govt is going to play this relatively minor electoral issue in these extraordinary circumstances, how can we have confidence they will be fair over really big issues over timing, campaigning, public gatherings and free press of Election scheduled for Sept 17.

Minister Little needs to reconsider rush. They are desperate to push it through before the public notice.

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April 7, 2020 at 8:56 pm

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Within classrooms today

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I filched the following from the Kiwiblog General Debate this morning because I think it deserves as much coverage as possible. I hope the poster and DPF do not mind.


I’m a teacher and have been for many years. Generally, I enjoy my work, though, like most occupations, there are occasional days when I wonder why I am still teaching.

Yesterday was one such day.

Barely five minutes into the first class of the day, I asked an 11-year old boy ‘How are you this morning?’ He replied, ‘F*** off’. On leaving the classroom at my request and according to the school procedures, he added ‘F*** you’.

Later in the day, when I asked another class why do we speak English in New Zealand when England is on the other side of the world, I was told by one (Pakeha) girl, ‘because the English killed all the Maori when they came here’. When I expressed some doubt about that suggestion, she said, ‘OK, not all of them – most of them’. She added that she’d been told this in a Social Studies lesson.

And in the last class of the day, another girl, about 13 years old, said that she disagreed that it was right for the Spanish language to be gendered. That Spanish nouns and adjectives are masculine or feminine, she didn’t think was right (I assume in a moral sense). Her reasoning was that a person’s gender ‘is a matter of opinion’. I did not ask her where she got that idea from.

A remarkable day at what used to be called ‘the chalkface’.

What’s gone wrong? Have I missed something?

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August 22, 2019 at 9:16 pm

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More freedom of expression madness

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I have been commenting on Kiwiblog since 2005.  That’s 13 years.  I generally have similar views on life to the blog host.  After following his writings, I can say we appear to have the same parents. Except I’m 6’5″ and he’s about 4’10”.  I digress.

Recently, I have begun to think the blog doesn’t represent what it historically has.  The deranged, sycophants who support Trump like lovesick schoolgirls, through to bigoted, hateful rants against Muslims and immigration in general.  Of course, most of these commenters are either migrants, or children of migrants.  But that’s conveniently overlooked.  A lot of commenters seem to support Winston First, if you logically follow through their beliefs to the voting booth.  But in the next post, they’re off criticising him and showing their general displeasure of him.  None of it makes sense.

Of course making sense and the Internet, particularly blogs, can be mutually exclusive.  That is
illustrated nicely with this post from David, called “Siggi strikes again”:

Siggi Henry is a Hamilton city councillor.  She seems quite crazy.  She appears to be rabid anti-fluoridation and anti-vaccination.  From a personal choice perspective, I get both arguments.  Both are mass-medications by the State.  But both have completely overwhelming medical support. Despite her craziness, she managed to wheel herself along to an event raising awareness of autism. Attending with her was her T shirt that promoted anti-vaccinations.  I mean let’s give this woman some credit: That’s ballsy, right?  It’s like David Seymour turning up to a Che Guevera supporters club meeting wearing an “I love capitalism” T shirt.  Henry was doing nothing more than exercising her freedom of expression.  It was quite an offensive way to do it, but as I explained in this post, causing offence is essential in a democracy.

Anyhow, near the start of Farrar’s post is this comment from regular commenter, Harriet:

What exactly does one have to do to be charged with public nuisance these days?
And how does one go about getting people charged for it?
From memory the only cases I can recall over the years are where the police laid the charges. As you know I’m no lawyer. Thanks.
Thinking about it, do you just keep ringing the police up and telling them that someone is continually being a nuisance?

I questioned whether she believed someone who turned up to an event expressing a view contrary to the one being promoted should be arrested.

I got 7 downticks and 1 uptick.

I’ll just leave it here.

Actually, no.  One last comment.  Harriet and I continued our “dialogue”.


Having an ‘eventual pattern of behaviour’ that goes against all reasonable public healthcare directions given by the health authorities, and publicly expressing them one way or another, would warrant some concern, I would tend to believe. But I wouldn’t know.


Harriet, do you think having an eventual pattern of behaviour that denounces climate change, which goes against all reasonable evidence from scientists, and publicly expressing those concerns one way or another would also warrant concern?

I hope I have made my point. 

Kiwiblog commenters really can cause head-scratching at times.

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April 1, 2019 at 5:49 am

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