If you can. Take your time too, because it’s rough. It’s a one hour-long documentary, Screams Before Silence that consists of interviews with survivors of the October 7 pogrom unleashed on the Jews of Southern Israel by Hamas, plus video taken by Hamas themselves.
No Minister 
I am reminded of the 2 docos about the Wellington Parliamntary protests.
2 stories from totally different points of view.
This doco is an Israeli point of view enveloped in lashings of emotions.
Why do I say this? Look at the funder and the producer
I am not saying there was no rapes during the attack by Hamas, and other militant groups as well as individuals.
I will say that there is strong evidence that mass rapes did not occur and it was NOT a HAMAS strategy.
For another point of view, and to me more believable. ie facts supported by UN investigators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mxfnya3ZRc
I am sure that in time History will provide us a better review.
If Hamas had hit the Israeli military alone (they killed about 300 IDF soldiers) I’d have some respect for them and the claims of fighting against oppression.
But deliberately seeking out civilians to kill and torture is crap in my opinion. And they do it deliberately because that’s the strategy of terrorists. It’s not just the usual story of war where individual soldiers or small units lose it.
Sure, there’s emotional crap on both sides – both those docos use the same movie drama techniques of music for example – but to me the fact that Hamas was willing to kill babies is the key point, aside from claims of ovens and beheadings.
Same with the rapes: ISIS regularly did that to Yazidis and said the Koran justified that (plus sexual slavery, which amounts to the same thing) and Hamas have made no bones about their similarities to ISIS and other such Islamic Jihadist groups. Why wouldn’t they do the same to Jewish woman?
And again, these are their own words and actions they boasted about via photos and video they uploaded themselves. Why deny something they were proud to talk about?
Define mass rape Mr Baldman. Is it 3 rapes, 5, 10, 20, 30?? When does it become a systemic measure used to inflict maximum terror?
I notice with those who are trying not to come over all anti Jew, that try on the reasonable approach of “I’m not saying”, or “maybe there were a few” etc, etc.
The classic downplay and the victims were not really victims, and the bad shit didnt happen.
Well it happen. The posts by Hamas gloating and boasting clear show the butchery…
Facts: October 6 2023 there was a truce and peace. on October 7 2023 Hamas breached a border fence in numerous places. Hamas targeted civilians for death. There were rapes by Hamas (a lot of them). Non combatant Gazans came through the breaches and looted. People were kidnapped and held as hostages.
All of that is undisputed and comes on the back of Hamas controlling Gaza since the mid 2000s and turning the area into a system of tunnels and bunkers, weapons caches and rocket/missile launching sites – oh and lets not forget the indoctrination into antisemitism that is promulgated through Gazan schools.
All to the detriment of ordinary Gazans trying to live their lives
Hamas have waged war on Israel unceasingly for almost 2 decades. Occasionally Israel retaliates, but its always been reasonably limited to date – the odd cross border ground operation of shirt duration or normally targeted destruction of buildings after warn ordinary citizens to leave.
Israel has tried to work with Gazans economically by allowing some to cross the border for work. A number of those workers, treated well, turn on 7 October and pointed out were safe rooms were so Israelis in the border area had nowhere to hide.
7 October was a provocation. It has got the desired response. The western leftists have predicably sided with Islamists who hate them (why? who knows because leftist hate blinds them to who they are sharing common cause with I suspect). Anything to have a go at Israel and by extension the USA.
Well, Israel has had enough.
The IDF have a mission: destroy Hamas as an operational force in the Gaza strip. They wont stop until the job is done.
And hopefully after that they will go into Lebanon and destroy Hizbollah as well.
If you want to find the evil in the middle east – it aint Israel. Its Iran and the Gulf States funding terror groups and not allowing anything to settle to a peaceful resolution. Which by the way could easily mean Gazans and West Bank Arabs forming their own sovereign governance structures…
The hates source isn’t about ground. Its as old as Islam almost – from the time when Mohammed was rejected as a prophet by the Jewish tribes of Arabia, the killing started and the hatred of Jews has been indoctrinated into pious, observant Muslims. Religion of Peace – my ass.
Mr Baldman, on the day of the murderous scum attacking Israel I watched a video of murderous Hamas scum loading the body (probably dead by then) of a young European girl, in the area at a music festival to support Palestinians, into the back of a vehicle to be driven around by murderous scum to advertise just how murderous the scum was.
Your bullshit post shows you are stupid, scum and, to be polite, I think you are full of shit!
I think this is the one you’re referring to:
Within a day or so she’d been identified as a German girl at the rave party, Shani Louk, and I wrote about her here at Peace she Cried
WOW, I seem to have touched a nerve when commenting on the Doco promoted in this Post.
You all DID READ my comment? Didnt you?
“”I am not saying there was no rapes during the attack by Hamas, and other militant groups as well as individuals””
I am not denying terrible things happened on October 7th.
My point was that another Doco showed some (I believe) More factual information.
Then you all go ballistic attacking ME!!!! (A sure sign that debating is not your strong point). Note: Spewing vitriol at me is wasting your time. But if it makes you feel good. Go for it.
Believe whatever you want to believe. I don’t have a problem with you consuming whatever media you like.
For me, I like to look below the surface of conflicts to see if I can learn something, rather than be captured by one side or the others propaganda.
As I said. I am sure history will provide us with a better understanding of what actually happened.
Perhaps the reason you’re being attacked – and while I’ll grant you the language could be a bit softer you know this isn’t a topic that’s going to be calm – is that you claim a balanced, somewhat objective view and write this:
Which is fair enough – except that you don’t say the same about the documentary you have now included in several different comments on two or three different posts in recent weeks.
A documentary “enveloped in lashings of emotions” and funded by Al Jazeera, the State-owned broadcaster of Qatar, who host Hamas leaders and fund them (“Look at the funder and the producer“).
BTW, as an aside I recall something you said weeks ago when another of your comments (with, yet again, this doco link) did not appear. It was trapped in spam for some reason and I approved it, but not before you said this:
Yet another implication of objectivity on your part – versus blatant bias on my part. I ignored it at the time but it was clear the stance you were taking, so don’t be surprised when others react a little more pungently to such debating treatment.
Fair comment and criticism.
I would comment:
Equating Qatar Hosting Hamas leadership and funding Aljazeera is a long bow in trying to prove that the Aljazeera Doco is somehow worthless.?
The levels of emotion on your doco and that of the Aljazeera are poles apart.
But maybe I was watching different versions.
Yes, I have repeated the reference many times when responding to one sided and factually incorrect comments/posts.
For my sins, I am a truth seeker. Which begats the question what is truth? Whose truth?
Often I am interested in ideas/information that is against the current thoughts and attracts opprobrium.
Over recent years I have been
Skeptical of covid hysteria when the currency was to isolate as it was to only solution to stop millions dying.
Skeptical that Ukraine/The west would destroy Russia.
Skeptical about Global climate change being an ultimate threat to mankind’s existence.
On a positive note. I have always had a belief that mankind/innovation can overcome many seemingly unsolvable problems.
The demise of The Soviet Union
Resolution of the Ireland conflict and others.
Increasing the worlds resources as population increases.
Of course so many other technology revolutions from Fibre optics, to Internet and communications availability cheapy to all, everywhere.
etc etc
I subscribe to this blog, as from time to time, there are posts that inform me.
Keep up the good work.
Maybe just don’t be so sensitive to critiques and comments???? <smiles>
Yes TH. It is.
THAT is HAMAS!
THAT is why they have no place on this planet!
From the comfort of our armchairs, thousands of miles from the conflict, it’s easy to ‘misinterpret’ what happened to suit our own viewpoints.
You only need to look at the early footage as mentioned above by TH to confirm that atrocities were instigated by Hama’s either directly or indirectly (it doesn’t matter which).
Whats reported afterwards is basically just trying to ‘set the narrative’.