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Following on from yesterday’s post where I took issue with Hendly’s modelling (seemingly endorsed by government) which postulated up to 7,000 deaths per annum from Covid with 80% of the 5 YO+ population fully vaccinated reducing to 50 deaths were the vaccination rate to reach 90% and it’s clear that the slow vaccination rate among Maori is developing as a real issue. Associate Health Minister, Peni Henare, has endorsed that concern.

I’m aware that Wayne Mapp with his family links into Maoridom shares that concern and it would perhaps be helpful if he were able to expand further on that. Suffice to say that, as I understand it, there is a significant cohort among younger Maori, especially with those who you might class as white collar intellectuals, who are dismissive of vaccination as just another manifestation of colonial oppression however defined.

So, consider this … what would happen if the rest of the population reached the 90% goal while Maori only managed say 70%. Would that cause the government to delay any move to the ‘new normal’ whatever the new normal is to be? The noises coming out of the POT (like that descriptive) suggests that would indeed be the case.

How then would the rest of New Zealand react? … one suspects this would not play out well on a number of fronts in which case it could end up being a real problem for Ardern’s mob.

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September 24, 2021 at 11:52 am

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Double Standards & Changing Narratives

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Just another in an endless list of examples of how the narratives change depending on who is in power and what objectives they’re pursuing.

The focus here being on Australia, which continues its descent into Stasi-world.

Let’s start with stuff in New South Wales, whose State government I have been assured is a “Liberal” one with more of a “hands-off” policy than all those nasty socialists…

… followed by the real McCoy in Socialist Victoria.

Plus a bit of phone app tracking of you in South Australia where you get 15 minutes to prove to the government that you are where you say you are.

Culminating in scenes like this – because even after two burly cops have smashed a 70 year old woman to the ground and broken her hip you still need to pepper spray the fuck out of her. Just to be safe. She might have Covid-19.

It’s entirely predictable where the MSM will sit on this issue. As this compare and contrast does of the Guardian’s approach to two similar events with different bad guys.

Flashback: how “Public Health advocates” felt about protests during lockdowns in 2020 America (same here in NZ incidentally)

Thus, you can guarantee which photo the likes of The Guardian would support below.

It’s almost time to start playing that game Papers Please to get into shape for the questions.

Having had numerous people in the US talking about denying healthcare to unvaccinated folk, don’t be surprised if it also becomes more than talk.

Finally, a timetable for comparison. Readers can pick where New Zealand sits on this chart – and where we’re headed over time.

Friday’s Fulminations

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September 24, 2021 at 6:00 am

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The government has released a report prepared for them by a Shane Hendly which has it that New Zealand could see up to 7,000 deaths per annum from Covid even with 80% of the 5+ population (75% of the entire population) fully vaccinated unless there are additional measures put in place … read further restrictions on business, the size of gatherings and the ability to travel internally.

Up until now there has been a general consensus between all parties in Parliament in relation to our Covid response with the only differences being around the fringes. This report which clearly has the endorsement of government (why would you release it otherwise) could well be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Does the government really think we are so believing of everything we hear from the oracle of truth; so thick that we are incapable of distilling truth from fiction? If they do then they may just get their true comeuppance. There is a limit as to how far you can push people.

Consider this … 18 months into Covid 19 including six weeks with the Delta variant present in the community and with the country at the tail end of developed countries with its vaccination rollout we have experienced a total of just twenty seven, repeat 27, Covid related deaths.

And the government expects us to believe a report that has it that even with the vaccination rollout at 75% we could see up to 7,000 deaths per annum reducing to 50 were the vaccination level to reach 85% and provided always additional restrictive measures remained in place.

Reality vs modelling that at best is suspect and at worst reflects the instincts of a socialist government to manage the daily life of the country their way with freedom a dirty word.

New Zealand … the way you’ve got it. Wake up sheeple.

Written by The Veteran

September 23, 2021 at 3:12 pm

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If you thought Auckland was doing it tough after a month at Level 4 then spare a thought for the many Melbournians who have been forceably incarcerated in their homes for close to 300 days per courtesy of a heavy handed, control-freak, socialist government. And while you can fairly deplore the actions of the protesters in Melbourne you can perhaps understand their frustration over the vaccine mandate being implemented by Premier Andrews … a mandate that will see construction workers, tradies, teachers and support staff, barred from working unless they are fully vaccinated.

And don’t you just luv the ‘collective punishment’ bit that saw Andrews shut down the entire construction industry (300,000 workers) over the action of 500 or so CFME unionists who vented their displeasure over the vaccine mandate outside the CFME Union Office in central Melbourne although I must admit to a certain wry smile … the CFME Union is the praetorian guard of the Labor left faction that holds sway in Victorian State Labor politics.

And don’t think it can’t happen in NZL. Trevor Mallard is already making noises about barring people from Parliament if they’re not vaccinated. Think about that and reflect. Sure you can argue its their own choice and they make that decision knowing the consequences of their decision … but Parliament … the House of the People????? That’s a step too far.

Be very clear. I’m pro-vaccination as a way forward to ‘normality’ however defined. But I respect absolutely the right of the small number of people who make an informed choice not to be vaccinated. In a free society there are limits on the meme of ‘the greatest good for the greatest number’. Mandatory vaccination and you’re no longer living in a free society. You can fairly ask what’s the next step … compulsory euthanasia for the terminally ill on the basis that the heath dollar could be better spent elsewhere. Nah, if you believe in a free society there are some things worth fighting for and the vaccine mandate ain’t one of those things.

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September 23, 2021 at 10:29 am

Evergrande survives…..for now

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Evergrande has made its latest bond payment. Goodness knows where the money came from, probably from Xu Jia Yin personally.

It fits this adage perfectly, “If you owe the bank $100 that’s your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that’s the bank’s problem.”

There are far too may vested interests involved to let this fail.

Thousands of empty finished Evergrande apartments in the Luoyang Province.

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September 22, 2021 at 10:16 pm

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The economic effect of “caring” Jacinda’s lockdown

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From Granny:

The economic effects of Covid-19 have created a perfect storm for Kiwi families, many of whom were already struggling to pay for essentials such as clothing and school supplies for their children, the head of a leading charity says.

“It is a situation which is increasingly desperate,” says Susan Glasgow, CEO of Variety, the Children’s Charity. “Many parents and caregivers are trying to cope with low wages, job insecurity and high rents. Families who have exhausted all other options are having to turn to Variety for help.

“Every day we have caregivers calling us, many in tears,” she says. “A lot were struggling before the pandemic, but the recent lockdowns have put even more strain on their finances pushing them to desperation.”

She says it is heartbreaking to know that caregivers have to make impossible decisions such as deciding between food or rent, clothes for the children or paying a bill.

Not once has this government given any modicum of thought to the economic effect of its lockdown decisions. It is becoming increasingly clear that Ardern is only interested in being paraded around the world at fancy talkfests as the female leader who “beat Covid”. She’ll leave this country in an absolute mess.

Richard Prebble wrote in one of his books that governments “don’t care”. I’m happy to be shown proof this statement is incorrect.

Written by Nick K

September 22, 2021 at 9:42 pm


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Justin Trudeau has always fancied himself as one of the power elite. Born into privilege he has traded on that privilege invoking the dictum of one rule for him and another for everyone else. Six weeks ago he called an early election in the expectation that an electorate, ever grateful for his leadership, would return his Liberal Party to power able to govern in its own right. Alas it was not to be.

The Liberals gained 158 seats, 12 short of a majority (after having been endorsed by such luminaries as Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton). They were out-polled by Erin O’Toole’s Conservatives who bested them by over a quarter of a million votes but, such are the vagrancies of FPP, gained only 119 seats. The nigger in the woodpile for the Conservatives was the PPC (People’s Party of Canada) formed in 2018 by Maxime Bernier after he resigned from the Conservatives. The PPC polled 818,170 votes (5.1%) but gained no seats. Their vote splitting helped keeping the Liberals in power. Sage lesson.

So right now Trudeau remains dependent on support from the separatist Bloc Quebecois or the socialist leaning New Democratic Party. In our idiom his ‘mana’ is weakened. Interesting too that the Greens were reduced to just two seats dropping from 6.55% of the vote at the time of the last election to just 2.3% yesterday.

I’m sure that Justin and Jacinda will remain bosom pals.

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September 22, 2021 at 1:00 pm

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Generational Toxicity

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Over on the Bowalley Road blog Chris Trotter has really been letting the words flow wildly in relation to the news of the AUKUS pact that has been announced, with two articles in one week on the subject.

They’re the usual combination of themes one would expect from his Lefty age group: pro-China, anti-US, anti-nuclear, fears of a new Cold War, fears of NZ getting sucked back into another “Anglo Saxon Imperialist” world and so forth.

But it was actually this passage that intrigued me:

It is also quite possible that, by 2023, the United States will be embroiled in domestic strife bordering on civil-war. 

Followed by a lot of ignorant guff about the USA and the Republican Party. Now I’m not averse to the arguments about a possible second Civil War in the USA: it’s increasingly being discussed in non-fringe circles on both the American Left and Right. Even in popular culture I saw the “comedian” Sarah Silverman talking the other day about the nation splitting up because Democrat and Republican voters increasingly cannot stand dealing with eachother.

But there’s another aspect of this that should be taken account of: the growing war between the generations. Specifically between the Baby Boomers and … every other generation: Gen-X, Millennials and Gen-Z. Admittedly this more of a US thing than elsewhere: I don’t think NZ Baby Boomers ever fitted the label of being the “Me Generation” after Tom Wolfe’s famous 1976 article.

I’ve already covered some of this in two posts, Ok Boomer and Hand over the $35 trillion, you old fart, but a recent article by a Baby Boomer in the New York Post should be more of an eye-opener for Boomers, Millennials’ extreme hatred for Baby Boomers is totally unjustified:

Baby boomers who cried “Don’t Trust Anyone Over 30” during the Vietnam War should be scared to death of millennials. Because, at least among the Twitterati, they hate us — they really, really hate us.

Last week I took a beating from younger readers over an essay I wrote lamenting the decline of the “power lunch.” Although it only partly blamed the phenomenon on millennial habits — e.g., preferring avocado and kale to beef and baked potatoes — hundreds of thousands on Twitter either posted or retweeted such insults as “Old man yells at lunch table” (I’m 69), “What’s it like to be an antique?” and “We’re the ones doing the actual lunches while you’re having three-martini lunches.”

Millennials (and to some extent their Gen-X and Gen-Z brethren) hate their elders with a ferocity never before seen in our culture.

Generation gaps will always be with us. Historian Marc Wortman found a generational split over sending young men off to war way back in 1941. But unlike those of us who came of age in the 1960s-early 1970s, who merely disapproved of our elders’ “colonialist” wars and shag rugs, millennials (born between 1980-1994) can’t stand the air we boomers breathe.

Young hippies outdoors.

To some extent? This guy should go to some of the chat areas of Reddit and other non-FaceTwit Social Media.

He’ll quickly discover that Gen-Z are right up there on bringing the hate and Gen-X even more so given their proximity in time. Few things piss off X’rs more than being pegged as Boomers by being born in the 1960’s, as if we remember Woodstock and “Free Love”.

Unfortunately the article then delves into the reasons why and thus demonstrates even more how Boomers just don’t get it.

But if they spent more time studying actual history, which can’t easily be found on iPhones, they’d know that boomers were, and remain, the most socially and environmentally conscious generation America ever has ever known.

FFS. He thinks this is because of Greta Thunderhead and her influence on 16 year olds re Climate Charge.

Oh no, dear fellow, there’s a lot more to it than that. There’s only one sentence where he alludes to just one thing stemming from that wonderful “socially conscious” generation:

Maybe too much so — our universities’ overwhelmingly “progressive” agendas originated in the 1960s and have become more dominant ever since.

That’s because the Boomers who were the radical students of the late 60’s/early 70’s now dominate those universities as professors and administrators, and are hard at work teaching the next generations the same stuff, without any opposing arguments or ideas.

Being “the most socially and environmentally conscious generation America ever has ever known” isn’t an excuse or a defense, it’s an unwitting confession of guilt.

What this guy and the millions of Boomers like him miss is that this shite has now spread into every other part of the USA: the MSM, entertainment, government, bureaucracies and even corporates and the military.

I know of no American member of the younger generations who thinks that Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid will be there for them in their dotage of the late 21st century. Or a military that can actually win a war either. Not to mention housing costs, energy costs, career progression, jobs in general or the chance of getting married and raising a family because it’s so bloody expensive in more ways than just dollars.

What he also misses is that these younger generations, or at least a good chunk of them, might be objecting to having had these institutions trashed by the ideas of a generation that aggressively devalued the traditional things on which they rested, even as there are members of Gen-X/Millennial that have learned from their forebears and joined in with the trashing, as this guy points out:

As a college professor for over 35 years, I’ve gotten to know three generations of students: Gen X (born between 1965 and 1980), the Millennials (1981-1996), and now Gen Z (1997-2012). And because I teach rhetoric, I’ve read thousands of their papers, providing substantial insight into the way they think.

In general, however, I found that Millennials presented unique challenges. They were, as a group, the most entitled, judgmental, and arrogant of all the students I’ve taught, often basing an inflated sense of self-importance on scanty evidence.

Essentially, they are the “participation trophy” generation, the unwitting victims of countless artificial “self-esteem building” experiments by the education establishment, not to mention their own parents.

Ouch. But there is hope:

There is another generation of bright young people — Gen Z — following right on their heels and therein may lie our temporal salvation.

In comparison to their Millennial predecessors, my Gen Z students tend to be more open-minded, more interested in facts and logic, more inclined to question the status quo…

That partially explains the Fuck Joe Biden chants that have swept across college football stadiums in the last few weeks and even spread to the Yankees-Mets game in NYC of all places.

They also take a more nuanced view of history and are inherently distrustful of ideologues on either side. 

Let’s hope so, and that inheritances will add up to avoiding a different type of American Civil War.

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September 21, 2021 at 1:09 pm


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I still have a few sources close to the action and I rarely use them for obvious reasons, but if true this time, enlightening would be a fit..

There has been a few raised eyebrows over how the Nation was locked down tIght after ONE RONA POSITIVE five weeks ago, then lo and behold yesterday in the face of twenty plus “NEW” Rona cases including three in rural Waikato over the border, Auckland did indeed become L3 as widely speculated.

Add in an unfortunate incident for a major “industry” participant who was stopped at the border and a Hundred thousand dollars and a boot full of KFC was ‘taken into custody”.

So is there any truth that a major contributor to the not revealed sum of knowledge leading powers that be holding confidence sufficient they know enough to relax house Arrest for many more, shall we say more innocents.

If there were no gangs in Auckland City there would be less Rona but those fewer cases would not be so recognisable to plod and the MoH? Could be misinformed but it does tally with what occurred yesterday, to my blunderstanding anyway.

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September 21, 2021 at 10:39 am

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