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A second American Civil War

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It’s been developing for a few years now.

Back in early 2017 there were developing conversations on the US Left about how the USA was slowly moving towards a second Civil War as a result of the horror that was Donald Trump.

There have been apocalyptic predictions before when American Presidents have been elected, so many that it has become a movie trope, some even with Presidential approval.

But I can’t help thinking that the USA is creeping closer and closer to this precipice, and today’s speech by President Biden may be that tipping point. Observe.

“This is not about freedom or personal choice.”

Words from an American President, the inheritor of 234 years of … ?

“Many of us are frustrated with the nearly 80 million Americans who are still not vaccinated”

In movie terms this is called “The Setup” where you explain who the bad guys are and why they’re the bad guys.

“Our patience is wearing thin and your refusal has cost all of us”.

Come on Vet, Wayne Mapp, David Farrar, and all the rest of the people who cursed Donald Trump as a potential dictator of the USA. What say you now?

“Biden says GOPers are murderers…” An exaggeration you say? Stretching his words? I don’t think so.

If these governors won’t help, I will use my powers as president and get them out of the way.”

The only saving grace here is that this is a threat as hollow as the pathetic, dim, senile old man who has uttered it. But given what can be done to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights by people with even some control over the Federal institutions of the Pentagon, FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA, ATF and a dozen other agencies, you have to wonder how far away we are from something far beyond January 6.

Here’s another optimistic take:

Biden campaigned relentlessly on the pandemic. He blamed Donald Trump for it, ridiculously, and pledged to end the pandemic. He expected the vaccines that were about to become available (thanks in part to Trump) to do the trick, and he expected the end of the pandemic and the resulting economic surge to ensure his popularity.

It hasn’t worked out that way, and voters are holding Biden responsible.

That’s why he has reversed course on vaccine mandates. It’s an act of desperation.

Want to know the really good news? China has been waiting for decades to be able to subvert the USA. Given the internal divisions already existing in the USA, how hard would it really be to just provide a push.

Or, over a decade, a lot of little pushes.

Written by Tom Hunter

September 10, 2021 at 10:28 pm

5 Responses

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  1. When politician’s grandiose schemes fail they accept their own culpability – instead they look for scapegoats

    And that is when they get dangerous – that is when you see protestors tear gassed, people arrested for novel offenses, such as failing to wear a mask.

    FFS did you see they are sending extra police to guard the Auckland – Waikato border/ Did you know we had internal borders in this country? Well we do now replete with border guards

    The vaccine’s a bust, that is becoming more apparent as the days go by

    Their desperation is apparent – that is what Joe Biden is displaying in those clips. That is what the call for “boosters” is

    The push is on to vaccinate as many people as possible as quickly as possible before the whole house of cards comes crashing down. that’s true in the USA and it is true here as well.

    These mental midgets politicized what is in fact a relatively minor problem and instead of looking for new ways to mitigate whatever difficulties it causes, such as determining effective treatment protocols for the most severe cases have bet the family silver on the vaccine and rolled snake eyes

    Now having made a mountain out of a molehill have probably collapsed the economy and social structures of the entire Western world.

    And we are all going to have to live with the results


    September 10, 2021 at 11:26 pm

  2. I was a little off topic above – but I think Joe Biden’s obvious dementia with his heir being a thoroughly unpleasant and dislikable woman is a feature not a bug.

    The 2020 election was hopelessly compromised, anybody who is half awake knows it was fixed and the pandemic™ played a big role in that.

    The Biden/Harris administration has been set up to be the fall guy for the implosion when it happens – the people’s ire will be directed to that locale and not that of the puppeteers

    I think Balkanization of our societies including or in particular the USA is part of the endgame.

    In a sentence the argument comes down to those who want to preserve the Constitution v those who see it as an impediment to achieving their own agendas

    The events of the past 21 months have been so batshit crazy that it is impossible for any of us to get our heads around them and process them into a coherent narrative.

    And this is exacerbated by active censorship in the MSM and social media giants

    We are driving full speed ahead on the road to perdition


    September 11, 2021 at 5:43 am

  3. Andrei

    September 11, 2021 at 6:31 am

    • The benefits to be had by pumping him up with Adderall to sharpen his focus is obviously waning. Most popular president in history mind, 81 million “votes”.

      Porky Roebuck

      September 12, 2021 at 1:52 pm

  4. Well, well, the discussion has reached the pages of the NYT via opinion columnist Michelle Goldberg:

    …it’s absurd to treat civil war as a foregone conclusion, but that it now seems distinctly possible is still pretty bad. The fact that speculation about civil war has moved from the crankish fringes into the mainstream is itself a sign of civic crisis, an indication of how broken our country is.

    The sort of civil war that Walter and Marche worry about wouldn’t involve red and blue armies facing off on some battlefield. If it happens, it will be more of a guerrilla insurgency.

    I don’t think anybody who knows even the smallest details of military combat imagines serried ranks of soldiers facing each other nowadays.

    But what’s also interesting are the comments, a sample of which is here:

    – No, we’re not about to enter another Civil War. It’s just that the previous one never really ended.

    – When Joe Manchin representing a state of just over a million people whose population is dropping off a cliff can override the will of the president and Bush and Trump were voted into office without winning a majority we are not a true democracy.

    – What we are likely headed toward is sustained, low-level political violence like The Troubles in Northern Ireland or Italy’s Years or Lead. Terrorist attacks, street battles, assassinations, and more. And this might be if we are *lucky*.

    As that last link notes:

    Each of these comments has been upvoted many hundreds of times. These aren’t just fringe voices, these are the best responses as voted on by readers of the NY Times. It’s hard to draw a simple conclusion from the comments except that few of them seem to think the civil war talk is overblown. Many think things will get worse before they get better.

    It’s hard not to see that as a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy. To the degree Democrats and progressives convince themselves they need to get ready to fight a war, either to save democracy for the sake of some revolution to take us beyond our current democracy, it’s difficult to see how the temperature and tone comes down. Tell people over and over that democracy is about to fail and revolution is the only option and some will believe it and begin to act accordingly.

    Or it could just be that Democrats strongly suspect they’re about lose a lot of power this November and are pulling the usual hysterical reactions we see every US election where that’s threatened: Facists, dictatorship, war, blah, blah, blah

    Tom Hunter

    January 9, 2022 at 12:37 pm

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