Oh but this is going to hurt, and judging by the online Twitter meltdowns from Leftists it’s a burn that’s going to last a long time, certainly past the Mid-Term elections next month.
Just a few years ago Tulsi Gabbard, as a House Rep. from Hawaii, was being talked up as yet another youthful face of a rising Democrat Party poised to do great things in the 21st century. Military veteran, mutli-ethnic, female, etc. She was the Vice-Chair of the Democrat National Committee (DNC). When she ran for the Democrat Presidential nomination in 2019 she did better than many others with higher profiles but faded for the usual reasons such young, first-time candidates do; lack of money and support from inside the upper echelons of the Democrat Party – including the DNC – who eventually plumped for “moderate” and easily controlled Joe Biden over True Believer Socialist Bernie Sanders.
But she didn’t exit before the current VP, Kamala Harris – seen as a front-runner in the beginning but who faded fast – and not before Gabbard had torn Harris a new asshole on the debate stage (to the loud cheers of the crowd) about how she had so harshly treated marijuana users during her time as California’s AG. Defendant’s rights had gone right out the window with Harris and she was made to look like a complete hypocrite.
But since then it’s become obvious that Gabbard was increasingly uncomfortable with her Party. She quit her House seat while under no pressure to do so, and has been increasingly critical of the Democrats. Now there’s this.
“I believe in a government that is of, by, and for the people. Unfortunately, today’s Democratic Party does not. Instead, it stands for a government of, by, and for the powerful elite. I’m calling on my fellow common sense, independent-minded Democrats to join me in leaving the Democratic Party. If you can no longer stomach the direction that so-called woke Democratic Party ideologues are taking our country, I invite you to join me.”
A tough yet elegant blast, and one that also raises questions about those who have daily tub-thumped about a Republican Party that has become “extremist” and under the thumb of OrangeMussolini.
I doubt she’ll have any success with a third party. Such independent, breakaway efforts are difficult to achieve in most Western countries, even those with proportional representation such as ours; 5-10% being the ceiling typically. However, it has happened occasionally; here in NZ the Labour Party was a minnow that took more than two decades to come to power, while others, like the Liberal Party, faded after decades of dominance. See also the rise of the Swedish Democrats, and the Brothers of Italy.
But in the US it’s almost impossible. There have always been such movements and “Independent” or Libertarian candidates for President, but they’ve never amounted to much. The last change was the rise of the Republican Party in the late 1850’s, following from the rise of the Democrat Party and the fading of the Whigs.
But the real lesson here will be learned inside the Democrat Party, just as it was with the rise of Bill Clinton, himself a product, and leader, of the Democrat Leadership Council that rose in power through the 1980’s trying to modernise the Party to deal with the Reagan Revolution, and which sealed the deal in the wake of the Party losing its third Presidential election in a row in 1988.
Or will it be learned? Even as Clinton won his second Presidential term in 1996 the knives were out for the DLC, “triangulation” and all the rest of the Clinton ways. It would take until 2008 before that crowd got the bit between their teeth with Barack Obama and declared – not so quietly and subtly – that the days of moderation were at an end. Clinton may have nodded to the Reagan GOP that , “The era of Big Government is over”, but the never-sleeping Far Left of the party never agreed, keeping quiet only to enable the least-worst option (i.e. not the GOP) to win. Once in power themselves they were determined to wipe out such thoughts permanently – and they think they have. They will both cheer and jeer Gabbard as she departs, thinking it another victory.
But election defeats, if large enough and successive enough, do change minds – or at least the minds of the go-along-to-get-along “centrists” of every political party.
I quite like the look of a DeSantis/Gabbard ticket in 2024, endorsed by a bed-ridden Trump.
That would work.
The deep State would never allow it though
Well, why am I surprised your hated of the Democrats is so deep that you applaud someone who is opposed to supporting Ukraine. And who uses that reasons to leave the Democrats.
An absurd level of partisanship.
Pfft. Your comments have reached a point where they’re almost not worth responding to, but in this case I’ll point out that I do not agree with her stand on Ukraine (as well several of her domestic policy stances), but do support her stand on many other issues.
And of course I would have thought I’ve made it clear via my posts and comments that I absolutely oppose Putin, his invasion, his absurd schemes for Greater Russia – and fully support arming Ukraine to defend against him.
But even in doing so I note that the concerns of the likes of Gabbard – a military veteran who has already been in one war that was surrounded by lies and is not about to be fooled again – around the corruption of Ukraine, the potential escalation of the war and how it all ends, is not to be as simplistically dismissed as you are so determined to do merely because of your support of Biden and the Democrat Party in general – and as such, you naturally ignore all the other reasons she gave.
Given your issues with Afghanistan I would have thought you learned something about military plans, mistakes and the bullshit surrounding them. Apparently not. Perhaps you should contact Nicky Hager again and get his take on the situation?
You chose the headline to your article, which is a specific reference to her views on Ukraine.
Yes, I am aware of your views on Ukraine, which is why I thought the the point you were making was absurd. So I stick by my basic proposition, the post was excessive partisanship on your part.
There was virtually no-one in the National caucus when I was there who demonstrated the level of partisanship against our Labour opponents as you do about the Democrats. Frankly it makes no sense to me.
The level of contempt you have for the Democrats, no doubt reciprocated on the Democrat side, is the reason why US politics is in the parlous state that it is.
Fortunately New Zealand politics is not in that state. There is stiilll a fair measure of bipartisanship which I think is essential in a healthy democracy.
Spare me your sophistries of chosen soundbites and headlines. You’re supposed to be more nuanced than that.
New Zealand politics is not quite yet in that state only because fate has not yet led us that far, and also because our nation is filled with the likes of you, gutless or traitors to our traditions. I saw you the other day on TDB talking of how you might have made MP in 1990 instead of 1996 had the National Party being a little more trusting your “conversion” from Labour. What fools they were.
Tulsi Gabbard has not yet done the same and may never switch to the GOP. I hope so, for she is worth ten of you.
Are you utterly unable to make comments without personal insults?
Spare me your faux offense. You make personal, sneering insults here with almost every comment. You are the living embodiment of what Ann Althouse has defined as civility bullshit. Read the links of a retired US law professor and take a look at who and what you are.
You’re a disgusting human being.
Oh, and BTW, there is at her blog site, the perfect link, Tulsi Gabbard explains the military-industrial complex to Joe Rogan
You have no idea who Joe Rogan is of course, but he has many times more viewers and listeners than any of the sources you attend to. He and others like him, are actually the modern Overton Window that guides you in your decision-making – though you don’t realise that yet, but you will.
If you were anything other than an elitist toff you would know that the best way of supporting Ukraine and Ukrainians would be to mind your own business and keep out.
In your hubris you think you are an apostle for the church Global Warming and “gay marriage” and think the whole world should follow your foolishness
But The Day of Judgement is coming!!!!
As opposed to your love of everything Left.
It’s such a shame National allow you labour types to infiltrate their party.
Just like fruit flies destroying from within.
Reblogged this on Utopia, you are standing in it!.
This is not your mothers Democratic Party.
Duh! . . . duh!
Hmmmm…. seems that the Gabbard resignation and anti-Democrat Party blast is causing another type of fallout, which is even contaminating the previous darling of the New Democrats, Alexandria Ocassional-Cortex…
Splitters! SPLITTERS!
I don’t think we are at all close to a nuclear war, but as you watch these two men almost hysterically shout at AOC over her support of Ukraine, remember that they’re just as shouty about Climate Change, Trans-support and TERFS and on and on…
This is the modern Left that’s driving the Democrat Party: emotional, hysterical, shouty with foot-stamping demands that one must agree with them – and thus deemed as “passionate” by their MSM allies.
That’s because you are utterly clueless as to what this war is really about and what the stakes are
For you it is the kiddie cartoon version of the “evil dictator Putin” wants to recreate the USSR or something and the forces of Freedom and Democracy™” must stand up for what is good and right and only have the noblest of intentions
All of which utter crap